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WARNING: SSAUTOCHROME, XSPOWER, ETC.

These parts are confirmed garbage. You are getting less than your money's worth when you buy this stuff.

There is no reason to create a thread asking about these parts. I'm sure you were really excited when that ebay search found you a $600 turbo kit, but alas there are no free lunches.

Feel free to post links to threads explaining the quality of these parts, but do not turn this into a debate as I will delete those posts.

Re: WARNING: SSAUTOCHROME, XSPOWER, ETC. (dustin)

"You get what you pay for" will always apply. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

Re: WARNING: SSAUTOCHROME, XSPOWER, ETC. (ben@importparts.com)

what about the parts made by mickey mouse?

Re: WARNING: SSAUTOCHROME, XSPOWER, ETC. (Arturbo)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dustin »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
These parts are confirmed garbage. You are getting less than your money's worth when you buy this stuff.

There is no reason to create a thread asking about these parts. I'm sure you were really excited when that ebay search found you a $600 turbo kit, but alas there are no free lunches.

Feel free to post links to threads explaining the quality of these parts, but do not turn this into a debate as I will delete those posts.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Finally, thank you. This will prolly reduce the amount of posts in this forum by half......actually people who are stupid enough to ask about ssautocrap ect. are probably also too stupid to look at a sticky at the top of the page https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...es/emdgust.gif http://images.honda-tech.com/set1//smile/emcrook.gif

Here's to trying though https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/embeer.gif

yes this crap is junk..."YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR"....everything about this kit is junk...it's just a shinny turd kit...stay away....we have all warned you about these...art i think i saw big bird weldin the mani's........lol

thank you god, he finally heard me. lol

This thread = Long Overdue

Re: (DragSource)

I bet people will still be asking though...

Dont forget about YZ Power and OBX (most of OBX's stuff anyway) are garbage aswell

I had a SSautochrome manifold, cracked several times and they did not fix nor replace it. My buddy bought a OBX oil pan for h22a4 and none of the bolt holes lined up on the pan or the pickup - very far off.
One of my buddys is running a ssautochrome turbo right now, he likes it (as of right now) also there intercoolers seem okay.

I would highly reccomend staying away from these companys.

Modified by N20civicB18 at 2:17 AM 7/30/2005

Are these just the manifolds that we're talking about? or are the turbos, wastegates, bov's etc. all garbage as well? because ssautochrome sells these also

Re: (o'malley_808)

everything they make is shit

the last thing we need is another thread of people bashing stuff with no evidence. I think this thread should be limited to posts of EVIDENCE of why these products are bad. otherwise its all just speculation and bandwagon and personally (i know theyre shit, but) I wouldnt be satisfied with that if i came on the board with questions about it.

here is my contribution, to those who are thinking about buying an XSpower or whatever turbo, please visit this thread:

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1097918

Modified by s1ngle at 6:30 AM 7/30/2005

anything you see on ebay is questionable....thats why I sell 99% of my parts there https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

bwahahhaah j/k https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emhammer.gif

nah the waste gate is actully a good piece and i recomend picking it up if u can get a good price

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by R6E6I6D »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">nah the waste gate is actully a good piece and i recomend picking it up if u can get a good price</TD></TR></TABLE>

the gate is the biggest look-a-like piece of crap iv seen... iv personally delt with a couple of them that either sieze up or fall apart pretty much...

A low price is hard to resist...a friend who's dropping lots of cash doing a jdm almost-ef9 style crx (NEW itr head, NEW ctr cams, etc) is seriously looking into these parts.

Nobody would buy pistons or rods that have the same questionable quality as their moanifolds, turbos, fmics & such. Just because it's outside of the motor doesn't mean it can't blow it up or break.

Im confused though because i can see the manifolds cracking etc. as a result of poor construction and not of a cast design or whatever the cause. But why would the turbos that they sell which ssautochrome has, claims to have garrett internals with wet floating bearings. How can these items be deemed poor if they are from one of the leading manufacturers...garrett?

Re: (o'malley_808)

you tell me how you can tell if its a garrett wheel. I'd say they're full of shit.

Re: (RTErnie Motorsports)

Im currently in the process of buying some chinese turbos to sell.There are 2 different companies in china that I know of that sell turbos.One company sells high quality parts and the other sells poor cheap quality same company that ssautochrome gets their parts from.They know the stuff is junk but they dont care.

ive been running the wastegate on a buddys car for a longass time NO problems , like guy said unless u have experience no talk

i've had experience with 2 of their manifolds and i have seen them crack within 3 months.

SSAUTOJUNK https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emthdown.gif

Well here is my input...

I'm not the normal "band wagon" guy that goes along with what someone else says. I'd rather test it myself just incase that other person is a retard and shouldnt be working on cars. I learn from my mistakes. Slow Learner some times. right jar?

most of these items would also end up being resold for almost the original price. so I havent had much loss on any older item i didnt need anymore.

eat your heart out, this is all stuff I'VE used personaly or a local good friend. I'VE been apart of each of the following. none of this is hear say.

Lets make this thread more, "TECH" related concidering this is honda "TECH" related site. If you have a personal story, post it. don't keep replying with .. "yEaH dUdD, OBX suck'a A fAt coCk'a" . That would make this thread just as much of a waste of space as all of the "is my ssauto turbo good" treads.

"THIS IS A STICKY TO HELP REDUCE USELESS CLUTTER, KEEP IT THAT WAY"

wastegates, I've compaird a 37mm to my friends tial. they seemd to be the same in and out other than logo's. Ive ran a 37mm for 2 years on my inlinepro mani w/ no problems, no creepin, so far. lol
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Turbos, Ive seen several go bad in less than 200-300 miles, the ones marked xspower. But i tried out the xs T70 and it seemed to of been well worth it for the 5 months of use. full boost at 4,500 w/ a b20.
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Turbo manifolds, they crack almost every time. Several local guys had them a while back and almost all of them cracked. Me and a friend tried them and they never cracked in the 1-2 month of driven on them.
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OBX lsd's , they are nice. My buddy pulled a 1.7 60ft w/ his ls turbo w/ one. When we tried pullin the axles, the passenger side was jammed in the diff. We got it out w/ a punch and hammer easy thou. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emwink.gif
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OBX Catback, I had one like 4 years ago on my coupe. Fit nice and seemed to be nice. But 2 years of use it broke at the hanger , splittin almost in 2. Was a noisey ride home...
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OBX headers, Tried the D-Series 4-1 and fit & performed well. Never had any problems with it. Tried the B-series 4-1 (2.25) colector, fitted and ran great with it. never had any problems. Tried the B-series 4-1 (2.5 collector) , fit great and nice power but a 2.5" collector had me at the exhaust shop modd'n the exhaust to fit. Other than that, I give those a https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif
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OBX FMIC, (31" x 11.75" x 3" ) I switched from the johnny race car 6" to this and had an great amount of change in power. IAT's were as low as 93 in boost (10-11psi). I'd recommend this to anyone. Our friend Derron also made a really nice increase in power with his boosted H23 accord. He's running 25-28psi. He's also a member on this site, hopefully he will repond too. I give this intercoler two https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif 's up
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OBX Intake manifold , haven't tried... I have an STR.. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emwink.gif

Re: (JDM S1eeper)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM S1eeper »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Slow Learner some times. right jar? </TD></TR></TABLE>

haha, good writeup Brad. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

Re: WARNING: SSAUTOCHROME, XSPOWER, ETC. (Arturbo)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Arturbo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what about the parts made by mickey mouse?</TD></TR></TABLE>

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My cumulative experience with SSAC:

1) Bought a "Stone Mountain Racing" TD05 turbo. When I received it, the bolt holes for the studs looked really poor. I tried to install the studs anyway and broke the turbine housing into 3 pieces. I received a full refund.
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2) I ran a SSAC D-series manifold (modified as a top mount with a Kia Mi-Tech head flange), unbraced for over a year. The only crack that developed was on one of the primaries and I blame my welding on that one. I ran a flex pipe and a 0.48/0.42 internally-gated T3. This is one of the lightest T3's and I cannot vouge for the quality of the wastegate flange on the manifold. I still have the manifold. Switched to a log manifold.
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3) Bought a couple SSAC V-band kits. These kits come with a pair of machined flanges and a V-band for less than most companies charge for just the clamp. My complaints: THe V-bands I received weren't the same ones shown in the auction. They were really thick steel and I thought it was going to be a PITA to weld them on the exhaust. Additionally one of the flanges had a tapered ID (for some reason) and the other flange had a continuous ID. I emailed them about this and they were really rude about it.

But as it turns out the flanges were fine. They were easy to weld onto my exhaust and I still use them. I ended up using the tapered flanges together and the straight flanges together.

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4) Bought the SSAC "Nissan T25 flange kit". Came with a lot of flanges for the price. But the flanges turned out to be cast stainless steel and the surfaces were not machined flat. I had to cut them flat at school. They were still easy enough to weld, though.

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Re: (JDM S1eeper)

I have personally witnessed JDM S1eeper's luck with ssac/obx/xs stuff. He has had good luck with almost all of their turbo stuff on a couple of different setups he has had.