CalvitoSol

yea yea, i know its a stupid question, but isn't hondata for hardcore tuners with crazy engine work? i'm not planning on boost too much and getting new pistons, rods, valves, springs, machine work etc is gunna cost a fortune and i don't think i can afford that. Is the vafc good enough or something that's better to be overlooked? thanx

Arturbo

hondata is easy and not for hardcore tuners. I'd suggest you find someone that can tune it for you but overall its cheap, simple and realiable.

art

MyWhiteCivic

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I would get the Hondata if I were you. If you look at the prices for both options, the Hondata is only a little more and you get a lot more for your money with the Hondata. The Hondata 2b is only $545. When it was all said and done here is what I paid for the Hondata:
Hondata 2b....: $545
Datalogging...: $200
Tuning...........: $150 (2 hours of tuning with a $50 rebate from Podium Performance)
Total.............: $895 <- Not too bad for a standalone system.

CalvitoSol

ic, thanx for the info. do you think i should upgrade the ignition even if i plan on running mild boost? i was thinking maybe an msd blaster 2 external coil, disti cap, and some wire to run w/ the hondata 2b. btw, i've heard about you ARTURBO, seems like you're the turbo guru around here in honda-tech. any suggestions that can help this noob out? also, where's podium performance? web link? thanx

DSF

No question about it. Between the two, Hondata all the way The AFC hack is beneficial to those who already have the parts, don't want to spend the $$$ on a standalone or want something other than an pump/FMU setup. I fall into all three. That's why I'm using AEM on my Civic and the hack on my CRX

shermanyang

iTrader: (1)

VAFC hack = poor man's hondata

redline201

anyone else have anything to add?
i need to know also
i was thinking the vafc hack but FI is new to me
i wanna boost my b16a but i dont wanna spend 800 on engine managment

uglyasscivic

hondata 2b with DSM injectors and resistor box you are good to go

boostinb18

with a vafc hack you can adjust it when ever you want by yourself....with hondata you have to bring it somewhere and have somone reburnyour chip fo ryou to change any settings......i dont have the money to go get dyno tuning all the time i ilike to do it myself and didnt want to spend 1000$ on standalone whne i spent $200 on a brand new vafc from a friend of mine and thats all i need! and it works great!

Spunkster

Hacks and bandaids will work for a while, but all you are doing is tricking the ecu into running a litle different, which has many draw backs. I recently went hondata and pulled all my JR electronics...trying to sell them, but in what i spent on those I could have had the hondata the whole time.

With the JR stuff the best i could do was 210 hp, now my best run was 237hp with only hondata and 440cc injectors. and my wiring harness is sooo much cleaner now.

Hacks are just what they sound like....backwards ways of doing things which usually get you in trouble down the line. Do it right the first time and you won't have any regrets.

redline201

whos sell hondatas a decent price?

wanabecivicex

http://www.hondata.com

TurboInteg95

I got 3 Hondata systems from SGT on the board. The last one I got took something like 2 days to get here.

SagaGSR

but if you're obdII, don't you have to get an obdI ecu and the obdII->obdI harness?

how much will that run?

JT

A P28 is about $100 plus $50 to mod. The harness is about $200 to $250 depends on where you buy it from.

zip

For less than $100 you can purchase the SMC and your fueling needs should be set with a mild boost setup (less than 14psi).


https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=279803

You can purchase it here:

http://www.diabloautosports.com

zojirushi

u can go up to 14 psi?

redline201

anyone using the SMC????
what are your thoughts?