Im trying to plan out my setup before I spend a big chunk of change, all I see is manifolds that mate with the turbo right next to the radiator, Im not to hot on this idea considering I have AC lines in the way and I dont want INSANE engine bay temps.
A while back on the IS300.net Forums I noticed PFS had a kit for the Is300 that mounts the turbo down near the oil pan and sheilds the engine bay from high temps, Is there anything like this for an b18b or will I have to custom fab a long manifold???

Thanks

Here is a pic of the PFS system on the IS300



Modified by low430 at 7:15 PM 10/6/2005

 

Just get a Turbo jacket? and call it a day. Or even Ceramic coated.

 

I thought about that too but I figured It might cause the turbo to become Excessivly hot and maybe warp bearings when cooling, Im a reliability freak so I will have a turbo timer and such

Has noone seen a bottom mount turbo?

 

have you thought about getting the oil back into the pan somehow? IF the turbo is right noext to the pan, You'll need a pump to feed the oil back into the pan and pumps get pretty spendy

 

yeah I thought about it, It is good point I was thinking of running the Turbo on a seperate oil system with its own cooler and Electric oil pump

This way it wont super heat the engine oil.

 

tilton offers a pump is 200$ that can fufill your needs.

 

Went to their website Couldnt find anything

 

I think you're overthinking the whole concept...

 

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Same here.


You sir needs to do some more research.

 

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Exactly, that IS300 turbo looks like your typical log type manifold. The only reason it works there is because of the engine layout (RWD), it's no where near the front radiator or A/C lines. Our FWD layout makes it inevitable to hang it off the front of the motor.

Like others said, ceramic coat the turbine housing and heat wrap your lines. The engine bay is going to get hot no matter which side you put the turbo, the heat still radiates everywhere inside the bay. (BTW, heat is good for the exhaust side )

Keep it simple. Mounting it that low and adding a pump only adds one more thing that can go wrong. (what if the pump fails?) Keep it simple.

 

How low does it hang? I was looking at some pictures of undercar turbo setups and I thought of how retarded it was.

People bitch when their oil pan or exhaust gets scrape marks on it. What happens when your car bottoms out and you smash your turbo?

 

instead of doing a bottom mount which is hard since you have space constraints you can just get custom a/c lines that will be out of the way of the turbo so it wont rub. that is what im planning to do when my motor gets put together (which will take forever considering med school consumes most of my time) and throw on my neukin a/c ramhorn manifold. with the custom a/c line, im going to reroute it under my radiator support or something to that matter where it will be clear of the turbo. this would probably be a much cheaper alternative also than getting a custom manifold that will mount your turbo that low.

 

dont try to re-invent the wheel.

if engine bay heat is a concern, then just get the turbo housing and manifold coated by someone good.

 

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100% agreed

 

what ceramic coated? It will still radiate heat like a biach but a blanket idea doesnt sound too bad, Somesort of Fireproof blanket or something

 

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and u prefer to have a turbo that is about 1200 degrees right next to the oil pan?

u will boil the oil and blow the engine way faster
at least a radiator "radiates" the heat away and the water serves as a control

on the oil pan the oil will carry the heat, loose the lubricating properties and bye bye engine

-10 to that idea SUCKS ***

get a turbo blanket and also coat the turbo!!!

not even an oil cooler will save u
in case u missed the chemistry class, the HEAT goes UP and will go towards the engine

 

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google is your friend
http://www.hpcoatings.com/

you really need to learn more about turbos before you start doing anything. lack of knowledge usually will make your experience really bad.

doing things differnetly can sometimes be a good thing, but if you are doing it for the wrong reason then it can be bad.

like if you know alot about turbo manifolds and modifying hondas/acuras and you figure a way to reduce underhood temps, increase perfomance, and decrease the cost of making a turbo manifold, thats a great thing. but you dont figure out smart things without knowing what you are trying to improve.

 

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http://www.hpcoatings.com/hipercoat_extreme.htm

mmm. i don't think so

 

holy ****. posted exactly at the same time.

 

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ive talked to the hpc guys before, they have a good service/product. i dont need anything coated right now, if I did, I would send it to them.

they make their own coatings in house. most all other coating places buy the liquid from others.

 

the way i see it tehre is no underengine turbo design. cuz its physically impossible. it isnt going to help you much cuz in order to do it. the manifodl itself will get close to the radiator.

 

swain tech or hpc one or the other. coat the turbine housing, manifold and downpipe.

 

BUMP for HPC...they do great work and have great turnaround time and customer service

 

You're worried too much about the heat... even N/A hondas have high engine bay temps... Wrap your a/c lines run an a/c friendly manifold and call it a day....simple as that.