First and foremost my setup...

I have a Vitara/Eagle d16y8, .57 compressor/.63 turbine .60 trim Turbonetics turbo with a Crome p28. The ecu is tuned for 10psi with 440cc injectors, I have 550cc injectors, a Walbro 255 and I'm running 12-15psi(I know I'm probably pushing it).

Well tonight I was getting on it and it was running fine and then next thing I know I smell oil buring and look out my side mirror and it's rolling smoke. So I get out and check under the car to see if it's leaking and there is no oil anywhere and it's still full on the stick.

What could I have done?
-burnt a hole in a piston
-blown the headgasket
-blew a seal in the turbo

There is no loss in power as far as pre boost goes and I hit a little bit of boost to see if there was a loss in power while in boost but I didn't rev it high enough to see. When it's idling it doesn't sound any different but when I drive it, it almost sounds like the wheel is hitting on one of the housings. I haven't checked to see if there's any shaft play b/c it was still hot and I'm pissed and don't really want to fool with it anymore tonight.

If I blew the head gasket or burnt a hole in a piston would there be oil coming out of the wastegate if it opened?

Also, would too much oil restriction (in the oil feed flange, its a Function7) cause the seals in the turbo to fail?

Just want to get other peoples opinions as to what may have happened.

 

why would you run a map for 440cc's when you have 550's and your pushing 12-15psi on that big ol' turbo for that single cam.... LOL

and your wondering what your problem is????


hahahahhahahahahahhahahhaha

 

Sounds like the turbo to me, especially since it runs like normal outside of boost.

Check for oil in your charge pipes. Too much oil restriction could have done this, as well as too much oil blowing past the seals. Was the turbo new?If not, how many miles on it?


Honestly, you'll need to get under the hood and check it out for yourself.

Edit: i didn't even notice the wrong injectors and such. Wow, either get it tuned right, or put on the correct parts for its current tune.

 

If it runs ok or normal out of boost but lower power in boost then either you burned your ringlands or popped a headgasket. But Id pull the boost pipe off since thats easy to make sure you didnt burn your turbo.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tannerLSt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why would you run a map for 440cc's when you have 550's and your pushing 12-15psi on that big ol' turbo for that single cam.... LOL

and your wondering what your problem is????


hahahahhahahahahahhahahhaha</TD></TR></TABLE>

Was I asking for criticism? Would you like for me to have it tuned for 550s and run 440s? Would you like to buy my tuner a new chip burner? Would you like for me to sell my ecu and injectors and buy an FMU and missing link?

Please leave my thread if you can't keep it on topic!


Back on topic...I'm thinking it's the turbo also, I just want to get other people's opinions before I get knees deep in it.

 

i bet your oil smells like a gas tank.

if the car is getting 25% more fuel than required, that is beyond the "a little extra fuel for safety" area, and it doing more harm than good.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mike@synapse motorsport &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i bet your oil smells like a gas tank.

if the car is getting 25% more fuel than required, that is beyond the "a little extra fuel for safety" area, and it doing more harm than good.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You are off topic also, so leave!

I bet it was my Synapse WG malfunctioning!

:sorry couldn't resist:


Modified by EX-T at 4:11 PM 8/31/2007

 

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You are off topic also, so leave!

I bet it was my Synapse WG malfunctioning!

:sorry couldn't resist:


Modified by EX-T at 4:11 PM 8/31/2007</TD></TR></TABLE>

i wouldnt doubt it, but dont look in our direction, you should give synapse engineering a call. different company.

and i was just saying 25% more fuel is hurting your motor, maybe so much now that it is consuming oil. just throwing some ideas out there. did you expect someone to troubleshoot your issues over the internet anyway.

 

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i wouldnt doubt it, but dont look in our direction, you should give synapse engineering a call. different company.

and i was just saying 25% more fuel is hurting your motor, maybe so much now that it is consuming oil. just throwing some ideas out there. did you expect someone to troubleshoot your issues over the internet anyway.</TD></TR></TABLE>

No, I was just wanting other peoples opinions as to what they thought it might be. I don't even have a Synapse WG I was just being a booty hole.

 

You're asking people for answers to a question that can be asked by simply looking in the mirror and realizing that YOU set up your car improperly. Run the proper components and get a proper tune, THEN we can help you IF you still have problems. You've probably washed out your rings by now, but who knows.

LOL...IBTL

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boostincoupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You're asking people for answers to a question that can be asked by simply looking in the mirror and realizing that YOU set up your car improperly. Run the proper components and get a proper tune, THEN we can help you IF you still have problems. You've probably washed out your rings by now, but who knows.

LOL...IBTL </TD></TR></TABLE>

Why would I need your help after I get the proper tune? I have just been asking for peoples opinions as to what they might think is wrong with my car. But showing how this forum (Forced Induction) has lended no help at all (that's why I rarely posted in here), I have come to my own conclusion as to what is wrong with my car. It's not washed out rings, or busted ring lands, or blown head gasket, or a hole in a piston. It's simply that the turbo that I bought used was in need of a rebuild before I put it on my...:sacrastic: Improperly tuned car :end sarcasm: and the fact that I had too much of an oil restrictor on it did help either. Thanks but no thanks for no help at all and keeping this thread completely off track from post #1.

Goodbye!

 

Turbo seal

 

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Why would I need your help after I get the proper tune? I have just been asking for peoples opinions as to what they might think is wrong with my car. But showing how this forum (Forced Induction) has lended no help at all (that's why I rarely posted in here), I have come to my own conclusion as to what is wrong with my car. It's not washed out rings, or busted ring lands, or blown head gasket, or a hole in a piston. It's simply that the turbo that I bought used was in need of a rebuild before I put it on my...:sacrastic: Improperly tuned car :end sarcasm: and the fact that I had too much of an oil restrictor on it did help either. Thanks but no thanks for no help at all and keeping this thread completely off track from post #1.

Goodbye!</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you've got oil coming out of your wastegate, I wouldn't even bother looking at the turbo. That would be an issue with your engine.

I understand hoping for the best and everything, but you were running 5psi more boost untuned, there is really only 1 thing that comes to mind. You smashed your ringlands.

 

washed rings, broken pistons or broken sleeve... if u need more advise send 50 bucks so i can use my inet-help-magic-ball and look further into your case... paypal only non refundable

oh and btw why you used a restrictor on a turbo that doesn't require one? did you check your line to see if it was getting way too much pressure that you used the restrictor?

 

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You are off topic also, so leave!</TD></TR></TABLE>

How is he off topic? You asked what could be wrong, and he's telling you - its due to your dumb *** running the WRONG injectors (way too much fuel), as well as way too much PSI for your tune. My guess is you've washed out the rings, or somehow managed to crack the ringlands in your vitaras.

In the end, it really doesn't matter. Rather than posting, you should be inspecting your turbo compressor & turbine outlets for oil, and if none is found, order new parts for your doomed motor. How more simple can we make it?

 

Just so everyone knows. Thanks but no thanks for no help at all. I was right in my diagnosis the whole time. The turbo took a ****!

Goodbye!