Built B16A

i have a 92 VX.. 5 wire O2 hatch.

i built a custom turbo kit for it with a T25. and im trying to get away from the FMU.

i kicked around the idea of a VAFC.. but i recently DL'ed the uberdata program, and figured out how to open differant files for differant base maps.

now.. can i socket my P07 ECU? and run a chip? im just learning all this ****, and a few options are Uberdata, Turbo edit, and such programs to edit chips.

2nd of all.

the E-VTEC. i understand for effecency, they open 1 valve later in the RPM range, for better fuel ecconomy. should i consider running the E-VTEC all the time, like a NON VTEC engine?

i know it seams funny that i wanna turbo my poor little D15Z1, but its just for fun.. and its got close to 230K origonal miles..!

hoggy

Sorry, your p07 won't work with uberdata. If you have more uberdata questions you'll get the best responses on the uberdata forum.

http://www.ecimulti.org/uberdata/forum

nonvtecD

Yeah but it takes a lot longer to get a response on the uberforum, I was hoping to chip a VX ecu too, why don't they work?

Built B16A

im not sure.

so what ECU's are avail for socketing?

OBD1's.. P28/30/72/75? anything else?

nonvtecD

the DX p06 can be chipped too, they're pretty cheap, I guess the VX ecu board looks way different than the ones we just named, making it impossible to chip.

SOHC_MShue

p28 would be a nice choice.

UberTeg

swap your head out with a z6/y7 head and run a p28

DA9-T

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Yep. I run a p06 on my LS. It works well.

sporkcrx

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Holy ****, I didn't know you were still here! The man that created this beastly program

Boosted Chemist

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from what ive read the p07 is like a p28 with a built in wideband, maybe a great ecu for chipping, i bet you could run any vtec code (p72,p28 or p30) in it and use the wideband....

http://www.pgmfi.org/twiki/bin/view/Library/P07

Built B16A

well, for right now, for ***** and giggles, ide like to stick with my D15Z1. i don't want to swap that long block out.. (lazy) and ide really like to see what kind of numbers this worthless 1.5 can do.. haha

2 roadblocks.

the E-VTEC. should i run the sol. hot all the time, and pretty much run a LS based map. (E-VTEC opens 4th valve at a later time for fuel effecency)

and if i have to run a P06 will i have to repin my harness and get a narrowband 4 wire heated O2?

RobDealakaGSRswapandslow

problem lies in the fact that there are 2 processors on the p07 pcb.

i'm sure if you PM J.Davis he can help you out here....

but it's very easy to just get a P05/p06 ecu and convert it over to work....what it will do with your Vtec-e...i have no idea...other tahn if you set it at the same engagment point..it should, theoretically, function very similar.

you will, on the otherhand, probally have to ditch the 5wire and swap over to a 4 wire......but you could always buy the wideband display/controller setup from somewhere and reuse the sensor for tuning.

Built B16A

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you will, on the otherhand, probally have to ditch the 5wire and swap over to a 4 wire......but you could always buy the wideband display/controller setup from somewhere and reuse the sensor for tuning.</TD></TR></TABLE>

is there a company out there, that makes a controller that you can plug directly into the OEM honda VX plug? that woudl be great.. or else i could resort into splicing the wires into a aftermarket controller for that WIDEBAND.

hrmm.. i mean, widebands are from 3-500 bucks.. but if i can use my OEM O2, and just buy a controller and readout, im sure thats pretty cheap, its the sensor thats the big bucks.

anyone heard of a BC controller like that?


another thing. with this head and E-VTEC.. you guys think i'll come accross a problem if i run VTEC all the time.. like hot wired? and just run the long block as a LS NON VTEC engine? it wouldn't help me for **** as for MPG, but atleast i woudln't be getting that lag and efficency from holding back that last valve.

RobDealakaGSRswapandslow

i honsetly don't know much about the Vtec-e heads......

but you can get a techedge kit, minus the o2 and use your stock one. they have a setup made to work with the sensor you have, no cutting

Katman

well for one, not all P07's use the same motherboard. Most use the 02D01560-1500 board, (seen HERE). But some P07's are EXACTLY like a P28 using the 02D011FO or 02D01720 board(s), meaning you can totally reprogram them exactly like a P28 ecu. On the other hand, if you have a 02D01560 board, they're a bit chipper unfriendly. They run like crapola once chipped, from my experience with 'em at least.

Crack open your P07 and see which board you have on your P07.

Built B16A

well, ****... after opeing my ECU, and fidning out from katman's experiances, i have the shitty, 1560-1500 board, and now can't use it.

thats weird katman, how you can do some, but not all VX ECU's.. and come ot think about it.. i think 94-95 VX's use 4 wire O2's again.. maybe this has something to do with it?

Katman

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thats weird katman, how you can do some, but not all VX ECU's.. and come ot think about it.. i think 94-95 VX's use 4 wire O2's again.. maybe this has something to do with it?</TD></TR></TABLE>

nah, all VX's are 5-wire 02 equpped...
duno why honda flip flopped with ecu boards...

Built B16A

Quote, originally posted by 99Hybrid_Hatch »
my buddy has one in his VX..and yes I did check it and it is infact a P07..

I did some checking here at work and in fact in 94-95 there was two options for exhaust manifolds and o2 sensors one being a 4-wire.

The part number for the 4-wire o2 P07 ecu should be 37820-P07-L02. The 5-wire ecu should be a 37820-P07-A01. Either that or the other way around but the 5-wire ecu is over $1000 and the other one is only $700.

Modified by nsxmatt at 11:08 AM 9/30/2004

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taken from a thread i created in the archives when i was inquiring about hondata. https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=998412

Katman

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Quote, originally posted by 99Hybrid_Hatch »
my buddy has one in his VX..and yes I did check it and it is infact a P07..

I did some checking here at work and in fact in 94-95 there was two options for exhaust manifolds and o2 sensors one being a 4-wire.

The part number for the 4-wire o2 P07 ecu should be 37820-P07-L02. The 5-wire ecu should be a 37820-P07-A01. Either that or the other way around but the 5-wire ecu is over $1000 and the other one is only $700.
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Interesting...I guess I stand corrected.

Built B16A

any advise on using the VX harness with a P28 and a 4 wire O2?

Built B16A

ok, i aquired a P28 today.. now what would i need to do to get this running in my car. i need to get hold of a 4 wire O2.. but how would i go about wirring this bad boy? my O2 right now is 5 wire, and is on the manifold, not near the collector.

DaX

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https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=295330

I converted my VX harness to use a 4 wire sensor for my LS motor...so in the future I could just slap on a VTEC head if I ever wanted to. If you have any questions about it, just email or PM me...I also converted my harness to accept a resistor box when needed.

Katman

interesting link DAX. Thanks for that.
I think i'll 'borrow' this info for my TechNet site and give the appropriate accreditation

DaX

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I think i'll 'borrow' this info for my TechNet site and give the appropriate accreditation </TD></TR></TABLE>

Cool! If you need any clarification or photos, let me know!

UberTeg

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Holy ****, I didn't know you were still here! The man that created this beastly program </TD></TR></TABLE>

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