yes

 

This is completely off topic, but I'd also like to say that Uberteg is my Honda-tech person of the year....He really helped me out with some parts I needed to fix my car!!! Great Guy!!!!!!

 

i have a question too..
regarding how the chips are tuned to run on the safe side of rich to start out with...
when they are scaled for, say, 450cc injectors, is the off-boost map JUST scaled for the bigger injectors (meaning, while not in boost the car runs with the stock AF ratio) and then it's just tuned conservatively rich in boost? i've already got one of these chips in my ECU, i'm just waiting for my 450's to activate it *jumper is left open for now* (side note- when buying anything from DSMtrader, insist on paypal in case they **** up so you can get your money back.. moron sent me 240cc non-turbo injectors instead of 450's). basically, i wanna know if the whole map runs rich or if i'll only have to tune/slightly lean out while in boost..
thanks uber, you rule...

can't wait for the datalogging/rom editor. i'm all over that..

 

no, I have to scale the entire fuel map otherwise you would run lean.

Do you mean you already have A chip, or an uberchip? DOesnt matter, just curious

Yes the whole map runs rich, but closed loop will lean it out for fuel economy

I know


MikePalm: Was just trying to help out someone in a jam with junk i had laying around I take it you got the headlights?

 

If UBERCHIPS cost $100 and you need to use at least an AFC($200) to tune it. That's $300. And he mentioned of a $100 price increase soon. So what makes it cheaper than Hondata?

Here's a partial list of Hondata features that is not available with UBERCHIPS.

This you can do without the software:

ADJUSTABLE REV LIMIT
ADJUSTABLE VTEC
ADJUSTABLE LAUNCH
ADJUSTABLE SHIFTLIGHT
ADJUSTABLE SHIFT LIMITER

This can be done by any Stage 4 user, Hondata dealer, and those with ROMEDITORV3.

You can also disable ERROR CODES if the sensors are not installed.

Adjustable target idle and IAC duty cycle for those WILD CAMS that you have.

A/C shut off when putting the pedal to the metal.

Fuel cranking adjustment especially when your car detonates when you start it.

Post start enrichment

Throttle tip in adjustment

AUTOTUNING

Datalogging with support for WIDEBAND oxygen sensor. Anything less than the wideband O2 is not real tuning.

TO sum it up, the features of UBERCHIPS is similar to HONDATA three to four years ago.


Uberchips will be a powerful product but for now I think it is still below par.

Please remember my words. Time will come that Uberchips will have the same features as Hondata. I just hope that when we reach that time the price is still $200.

 

my chip alreay has over half the things you listed there... and the $200 version isnt just a price hike, you can tune it yourself with that version.

edit:
So its about $250 total for everything you need to tune it yourself, versus hondata's tuneable version which is around $700 i believe (you cant tuen the base hondata yourself). And how many peope really use a/c cut? I could program that, but if you are so lazy you ened a program to disable a/c when you are racing, you got problems. I refuse to waste my time making such trivial things


[Modified by UberTeg, 9:14 AM 4/8/2003]

 

i have one of your chips. ordered it about 2 weeks ago..

chipping these ECU's is pretty easy...

 

Told you we needed the shift light


[Modified by lshatchturbo, 4:39 AM 4/8/2003]

 

hahahah, you were right But I still wont waste my time making it ^^

 

I want to have UberTeg's babies.

 

who has chipped their own? i have no problem soldering but desoldering is something im not too great at. do you just use the braids from radioshack? that kit to put together the burner doesnt look bad at all. the only thing that looks tight is the transistors(guessing thats what those are, to92 package).

 

i chipped mine. the desoldering braid works great. i just practiced a little before on fried pc boards and got the hang of it before starting on the ECU. took me about 45 minutes. i thought it was pretty easy. i think if you have decent soldering skills you won't have any trouble doing it yourself..

 

how thick of a braid do you use? i use that roughly 3/16" braid they sell at radioshack. is there something better?

 

me and my cousin chipped my ecu. u'll probably need two person becuase it would be alot easier and faster. the wick didnt work for us. so we used a sucker. we heated up one side of the solder and suck it out the other side. took about 20 mins. from 1-5 5 being the hardest. ill give it a 2.

Uberteg is a Great Guy!!


[Modified by turbod16y8, 8:57 PM 4/8/2003]

 

i knew i should have gotten one for $100 and updated for $50... i guess i will have to shell out the extra $50... but it looks well worth it... a good alternative to hondata... imho...

 

KOTSEMOTO... you should really learn about a product before you (even in a well intentioned manner) bash it. I do think you're trying to offer a well grounded perspective, but you are wrong.

Half of your list of unsupported functions are supported by my current (out of date) version of the ERM tuner that Uberteg kicked me... it's the third revision I've had.

A picture is worth a thousand words...



Autotune is, last I checked, coded and waiting in the wings while hardware is figured out so you can run a WBO2 directly into the ECU's O2 pin, and he's mentioned operating a GM boost solenoid via AC cut pin on the ECU to be able to control boost over VSS much akin to EMS.

Hondata and Zdyne were started by automotive enthusiasts who learned to code after the fact. Great products, well thought out, but it's taken them (Hondata anyway... Jeff M., where are you?) a while to get everything up to speed. Uberteg is a code monkey who decided he liked cars, and his progression is rapid.

I'm not arguing that Uberchips doesn't yet compare to Hondata... he's only been at it a few weeks which is why he's only halfway there. I give him six months to seat your jaw firmly on the floor.

 

That size is fine.

The braid doesn't suck solder well unless it already has a little molten solder in it. I usually place the solder-crusted braid over a pin to desolder, then put a cheap radioslack desoldering iron over top of it so the pin goes into the desoldering iron hole... melt... wiggle iron... suck... pull everything away promptly. Wiggle the pins a tad to break them free of any residual solder. 100% groovy.

 

I am not arguing. I stand corrected with some of the features.

Maybe I should have stated in in a more constructive manner.

With the new development, I am really interested in this.

 

the braid i was using was REALLY thin (pkg says size # 1, got it at axman surplus for $.95). took 2 passes per hole to wick the solder out. i think the thicker would work slightly better. it's more just time consuming than anything...

 

You are both wrong, the easiest way is to heat up 1 side, and have a friend suck up the solder with a straw.

 

are these coming out soon uberteg? when do i get mine? you still scarce on them?

 

Man, I hope I didn't come down on you like a ton of bricks... you really did seem interested in a fair, dispassionate comparison of Uberchips vs the competition.

My post may have, after the fact, made it seem like you were out of line... but the "product" just came out today, no fault on your end for not knowing all the details.

 

auto tune feature is gonna be the ****!so when autotune comes out all i will need is a widebangd 02 sensor and datalogging ?

 

Yes, I am comparing them. I am looking for possible edge in the Honda market.

And if there are features that are not in this product, let it be known so that it will become a very powerful tool in the Honda tuning scene.

 

So Uber there are no more $100 chips? Its only $200 now?