02ep3

Ok, some honda guys love all motor setups, others are all about the boost. Of what i think, is it true that an all motor setup is best because it gives you the power gains through all of the rpms, while in a turbo, you get power mostly in the higher rpms. What are the reasons one are better? Why is all motor or turbo actually better?

520_Motorsports

I belive that turbo is the way to go!!!! I knwo a guy who has a FULLY built H22 making good power. ran 12's in a 4dr accord. he just swiched over to ITB's and a custom header approx $2500-3000 in parts between the two and only got a gain of 1.5 whp!!!!!!! TURBO IS THE WAY!!!!!!!!

Boostage

Go drive a turbo car and you will understand. its then you will see the light, and angels will sing and ****.

Finest

This has been discussed many a times before.

A properly tuned turbo setup can make more power throughout the entire powerband.

mozzandherb

iTrader: (3)

What's his setup in the Accord?

Everyones Hero

Isn't there a link to a big thread on "NA vs FI" in the FAQ?

bigdaddyvtec

LOL!!! yes the darkside gives me wood!!!

Adr!an

Hondas were made to Rev.... I think boost it just for the people who lack funds to build a all motor engine as the price is ridiculous. Not only that but the feeling of boost is a hard thing to forget once experienced but all motor is Honda's aim....thats why they stop producing turbo cars since the 70's.

bigdaddyvtec

HA HA HA you ARE kidding right??? right???

B00STFREAKS

AbitAvenger

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boostage &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Go drive a turbo car and you will understand. its then you will see the light, and angels will sing and ****.</TD></TR></TABLE>

LOL

nY's FiNeSt

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Adr!an &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hondas were made to Rev.... I think boost it just for the people who lack funds to build a all motor engine as the price is ridiculous. Not only that but the feeling of boost is a hard thing to forget once experienced but all motor is Honda's aim....thats why they stop producing turbo cars since the 70's.</TD></TR></TABLE>

LOL, so it doesn't cost much to put together a fully built turbo setup?

Yeah alot of TRACK cars are kept NA but if this guy is trying to build a FAST car, boost is the way to go, there's only so far you can go with an NA setup, spending 1,000's of dollars for nickel and dime hp, and then you have to gut the crap out of your car? not worth it, with half of the money he would spend on the NA setup he can build a turbo setup and be faster and just as or even more reliable than a crazy NA setup

just my opinion

m R g S r

ive had both...numerous setups...na sucks

02ep3

i drove an srt-4 that a friend of mine owns....dont get me wrong, turbo is fast as ****. Like, scary fast. But when you punch it, it has that 1 second lag for the exhaust to spool the turbo, you wouldnt have anything like that on all motor. and i agree with the honda;s are high rev, na machines

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nY’s FiNeSt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

LOL, so it doesn't cost much to put together a fully built turbo setup? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Sure it does, but to get 60 hp out of a boosted motor is a lot easier/cheaper then it is to get 60 out of an all motor set up

.RTErnie

have you driven an NA 2.4L neon? didn't think so. The srt-4 ***** all over a NA 2.4L. The SRT-4's exhaust housing is TINY...so it makes full boost by near 2500rpms and peak torque under 3k. You cant tell me that isn't a quick spool.

Adr!an

You cannot get a good all motor setup for $4000, what are you talking about. Firstly to get it to rev cams bearings and forged rods are expensive not to mention ITB. If your going to run a good all motor setup alot of maching has to be done to the block and heads. Most of you guys dont ture your hondas to rev past 8000 Rpm, which is where alot of power is left to be made. 9000 rpm is just sufficient for a great all motor setup to get a good crank that will take that abuse alone is expensive so think before you talk K... But the truth is boost is the way to go if you have a low budget and need to make power easily, N/A will always be the best tho

B00STFREAKS

I had a SRT4

I had a few mods..

Mopar Stg1
K&N Intake
BDJ Racing Exhaust
AGP Adjustable wastegate

Less then $1000.00 in Mods

Made 270whp & 334trq

02ep3

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ~RTErnie~ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">have you driven an NA 2.4L neon? didn't think so.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Didnt realize i answered there......is the base model neon a 2.4? if so, i must have lied when i answerd you. i have driven the base neon and if thats the car, i cant believe you would honestly compare the base model neon to the srt-4......its not like the base is built up to 230 something hp.....i bet if you build one up to 200 whp, it would compete.....

B00STFREAKS

Wanted to add in..

Dyno Pull 005 was made on stock exhaust. Then the rest were on the 3" exhaust.

The 270/334 was made spiking to about 23psi and falling to about 17psi at redline...

02ep3

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B00STFREAK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I had a SRT4

I had a few mods..

Mopar Stg1
K&N Intake
BDJ Racing Exhaust
AGP Adjustable wastegate

Less then $1000.00 in Mods

Made 270whp & 334trq
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So like us NA guys have been sayin:

BOOST=CHEAP HP &lt; NA=$$ for hp
this is quiet the math equation

B00STFREAKS

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 02ep3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So like us NA guys have been sayin:

BOOST=CHEAP HP &lt; NA=$$ for hp
this is quiet the math equation</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yep thats how it works out..

But i have yet to see a high horsepower NA that would compair to some peoples daily driven turbo cars..

ksSI

look at it this way, put a decent turbo set up on a car for 3500. you have good hp all over and can run some decent times.
spend 3500 on na set up. ok power, just ok time at the track(in a street car).
so one day your driving around and boom you motor breaks a rod. damn that sucks.
now you have to buy a new motor spend 1000-2000$ got yourself a new motor.now with a turbo you put her in and your ready. with a built na motor you got to buy the motor and then spend at least 2000$ to put the motor back.when they blow they take out most of your good stuff.
so you make the choice.. .02

02ep3

dont get me wrong, i like turbo...the BOV sound....drool....i had just heard that na rules all.......still a grey area

Turbo Vs N/A is like the age old question, how many licks to the center of a tootsie pop........the world may never know

B18 CYA

nothing but a bunch of morons in this thread misinforming ppl

ksSI

so an opinion makes you a moron? i see i like being a moron then becouse i will tell my opinion.