ej1bseries

Hey guys I have been searching for a stock sleeve turbo build thread and haven't found any so I thought I would try and start one heres my build and my power goal.

B16 head
Supertech valve springs and retainers
Sk2 high compression valves
Sk2 stage 2 tuner series cams
Sk2 cam gears
1000rc injectors
Goldeneagle fuel rail
Edlebrock im
Sk2 74mm tb
Arp head studs

Ls block 81.5mm
Cnc werx css, cylinder support system
Wesieco 9:8:1
Eagle rods
ACL bearings
Ls crank

Hoping to somehow get 600-650hp but sometimes thinking I'm thinking too high what yu guys think

ej1bseries

Ooh and this will be with a precision 6262

ej1bseries

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SLIM NOTHING

dont look reliable... over doing things for that power goal... do some more reseach...

ej1bseries

Just curious why makes you think its unreliable just so I kno what I should look into changing, I have mostly everything I wanted except for my block being sleeved

EFvtec Yo!

600-650 seems really high for stock sleeves. Might want to go with a sleeved block for those power goals.

ej1bseries

I don't know if you guys know about the CSS or if there called CSS everywhere in the US but its almost like a block guard but way better they drill around the cylinder walls so its the same gap all around and they place a guard so it fits tight all around unlike a block guard that fits tight on some spots and loose on others there rated to 500whp but I was hoping to get to 600

SLIM NOTHING

81mm is iffy at 500-600 and your 81.5mm is even worse... oem still valves, or oem size after market valves (No flat head) 74mm tb is way to big for what you want... youll have to port match the intake manifold and tb (if you dont its pointless) witch in turns may mess with the IACV making you have wire and buy or make a plate to relocate the IACV off the manifold. stick with a 68mm-70mm from OMNI ($99 dollars and has OEM FEEL!) you mite as well buy type r cams. they are stronger and are just as good and cheaper. what fuel are you running? what EMS are you planning to tune this with?

ej1bseries

My plan was to run e85 nd it will be tuned on a s300

h22apwrd95

iTrader: (1)

You are not going to get 600+ out of 1000cc injectors on E85. Mid 5XX is probably your max.

TravisBiggie

You must be new.

Relax for a second and take things slow. Learn more about what you're getting yourself into before buying **** and making stupid mistakes. 600+ whp is so much power you won't know what to do with it. Shoot for 400-450whp first, which is do able with your list even on stock sleeves.

I'm going to get new pistons and rods once I decide to rip my motor apart, and I'll be good for 400whp. Thatll smack almost every car on the street, and lots of bikes too, so thats all the power I'll ever need. Instead of more power, i'll work on beefing up my transmission.

ej1bseries

So I should look into bigger injectors and a slammer tb

boosted_D

iTrader: (1)

All depends on what you have actually purchased so far....

If you are just starting and haven't purchased this stuff yet, I would switch your plans for supertech springs and retainers and sk2 valves and get ferrea instead. Also, yeah get a little smaller TB.

If you already have all the stuff listed, then go for it, it will work fine.

I do think your power goal is a bit high. When you get to the 600+ whp mark, your getting into needing a dual fuel pump, all new fuel lines etc. set up.

With what you listed, a goal of 550 whp max would be good.

Is this a street car? or a race car? If its a weekend warrior street car, even 550 whp is ludicris. Your going to need 24" or bigger slicks and a serious suspention set up to lay down that much power, 450 whp is plenty for the streets.

SLIM NOTHING

i know your not going to listen but none of that stuff will even matter because its not safe to boost a stock sleeve thats at 81.5 ( could be less if it needs honed) youll end up spending more money in he end when they break. if i were you stay around the 500 range.. its plenty of power and cheaper to build..

im not gonan try and scare you off from turboing your car but i just wanna give you some insight for what you are getting your self into.

now to the block. it is best to get your 81.5 sleeved. and if you do you can even go 82,83,84. there are a few sleeves you can use and each are diffrent in price. AEBS iron ductile are nice, i paid $1600 for mine (included oring and some extras) Golden eagle are nice as well and same qaulity. i beleive you can get sleeved fro around $1100 give or take. Darton sleeves, although ive heard some bad storys on some of these sleeves, i also know someone that is running 8.9 in the 1/4mile with darton sleeves, price is around $1000 give or take. i highly recommend sleeving.

if you are going to run E85 your gonna be close to maxing out your pump and injectors. are you close to an e85 pump? thats another thing to think about. you can always upgrade to a single areomative stealth pump that should help a lil more. it drops in place of your stock pump. youll have to get a FPR then.

when assembling your motor you need to know about finding the clearances such as piston 2 wall, bearing clearances, as well as the correct ring gaps. head studs would be a must.

skunk2 valvetrain is fine. I have full skunk2 pro in my head.

the more power you go the more headache and price goes up.

boosted_D

iTrader: (1)

SLIM have you evver seen/read about the cnc werx css he is running?

It is a support system for the stock sleeves that allows safe use of the stock sleeves at 81.5 mm at high power levels.

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe they have already been proven to reliably support 600 whp.

ej1bseries

Yea your right, my motors internals are all done so I am not going to take it back apart to rebuild but I still have not bought injectors or TB or a fuel pump yet. I posted those becasue those where the parts I was looking to buy, and the car will mostly be a track car but I will be bringing it out to the street on nice days which is rare up in MASS

St0ckEg

U will need at least some 1600s and a pair of the 044s will make over 6. I am making 630 on a b16 stock sleeve block. Wiseco piston eagle rods . Been running this set up for about 3yrs now. best time is 10.14@143 6.63@114 . On e85.

ej1bseries

Wow that's good, what size tb r you using with a track time like that i will be very happy

St0ckEg

I have a blox 68.. My set up was a budget build. And its still holding up. Lol the head is a gsr with blox dual valve springs and retainers. Blox type b cams stock ports. I use to drive it on the street all the time but now it's just a track car.

ej1bseries

Lol must of been a great budget build are you at a stock bore

boosted_D

iTrader: (1)

A 68 or 70mm tv will be enough, 1600 cc injectors is probably a good idea, you do have options when it comes to the fuel set up, if you go for 600+ whp you should have an aftermarket fuel rail, adjustable fpr, and fuel filter, you will also need bigger than stock fuel feed and return lines. As far as pumps go, you could do a number of things,

Twin walbro 255 intanks
Walbro 255 + 044 online
Aeromotive big boy pump

Do some research and see what nest suites your budget.

St0ckEg

yes stock bore.

SLIM NOTHING

smh... kids... im out... it has nothing to do with the damn cnc ****. im talking about your wall thickness...

have fun

ej1bseries

Everyone is gona have there different opinions, I'm getting good and bad news, I understand what everyone is saying beside the part of my build not being reliable I bought all good named parts which have been proven to make good power the CSS plays a big roll in this build

ej1bseries

Oo and I dont get how my valves would be bad on my build its raising the compression a lil higher which I would guess is a good thing since I'm at 9:8:1, my thought is it would help me make more power