It this turbo screwed?
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It this turbo screwed?
This is what I get for not using a 10c cable strap or something on the silicone hose that goes from the turbo to the wastegate. It came off and was touching the inlet blades I assume (the hose was pretty eaten up on the turbo end of it). Lucky I did not over boost or anything.
Funny thing is I did not really noticed anything except that when I did boost (low psi) the car seemed a little sluggish but the turbo did not make any wierd noises or anything. There is still no shaft play, etc. (Garrett Turbo btw)
My question is 1. Is the turbo basically done or can I still use it like this? 2. Do I need to remove my charge pipes and intercooler to check for metal pieces or the silicone hose pieces / clean intercooler and pipes out?
Funny thing is I did not really noticed anything except that when I did boost (low psi) the car seemed a little sluggish but the turbo did not make any wierd noises or anything. There is still no shaft play, etc. (Garrett Turbo btw)
My question is 1. Is the turbo basically done or can I still use it like this? 2. Do I need to remove my charge pipes and intercooler to check for metal pieces or the silicone hose pieces / clean intercooler and pipes out?
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Time for a billet wheel. Yes you should pull the ic piping and check for any metal fragment. If there none you should look into a billet wheel and rebuild kit
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Where do I get this billet wheel from and is it hard to replace just the wheel. This turbo was 100% perfect before this bs...
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For one y was there not a filter being ran on the turbo? Did u not feel the need to run one? I bet u do now don't ya? If not prepare for another failure on the next turbo u buy and run without a filter because sand dirt dust anything and everything can be sucked in and do that again. Just think a ten dollar part and this wouldn have happened....tisk tisk.
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Yes. a rebalance for any wheel replacement is needed, whether it is cast or billet aluminum. you can send the entire turbo to a facility that manufacturers these special wheels, but it is truly their discretion as to whether or not they'll do it for you. (A lot of times, unless it is of a certain size, they say no.)
I'd just send it to a reputable rebuilder and have the turbo replaced, checked for any internal damage to the cartridge and rebalance. Expect to spend over $400 since there are hard parts replacement involved. (most "rebuilds" do not include in their pricing any replacement of shafts or wheels.)
I'd just send it to a reputable rebuilder and have the turbo replaced, checked for any internal damage to the cartridge and rebalance. Expect to spend over $400 since there are hard parts replacement involved. (most "rebuilds" do not include in their pricing any replacement of shafts or wheels.)
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For one y was there not a filter being ran on the turbo? Did u not feel the need to run one? I bet u do now don't ya? If not prepare for another failure on the next turbo u buy and run without a filter because sand dirt dust anything and everything can be sucked in and do that again. Just think a ten dollar part and this wouldn have happened....tisk tisk.
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Yes. a rebalance for any wheel replacement is needed, whether it is cast or billet aluminum. you can send the entire turbo to a facility that manufacturers these special wheels, but it is truly their discretion as to whether or not they'll do it for you. (A lot of times, unless it is of a certain size, they say no.)
I'd just send it to a reputable rebuilder and have the turbo replaced, checked for any internal damage to the cartridge and rebalance. Expect to spend over $400 since there are hard parts replacement involved. (most "rebuilds" do not include in their pricing any replacement of shafts or wheels.)
I'd just send it to a reputable rebuilder and have the turbo replaced, checked for any internal damage to the cartridge and rebalance. Expect to spend over $400 since there are hard parts replacement involved. (most "rebuilds" do not include in their pricing any replacement of shafts or wheels.)
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It won't be funny long as you now have fatiqued metal that is rotating around, any of which point could break off and destroy the rest of the turbo, or better yet, get into the engine somehow.
50 trims are now averaging about $650.00-$700 for a quality one. you're better off getting it fixed. Prices have increased over the last year.... significantly
50 trims are now averaging about $650.00-$700 for a quality one. you're better off getting it fixed. Prices have increased over the last year.... significantly
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It won't be funny long as you now have fatiqued metal that is rotating around, any of which point could break off and destroy the rest of the turbo, or better yet, get into the engine somehow.
50 trims are now averaging about $650.00-$700 for a quality one. you're better off getting it fixed. Prices have increased over the last year.... significantly
50 trims are now averaging about $650.00-$700 for a quality one. you're better off getting it fixed. Prices have increased over the last year.... significantly
LOL - price increase you say? I bought this Garrett for $200 not too long ago and it was perfect, used with low miles but perfect! I honestly do not believe in $650 for a .50 trim lol. BTW I already found an almost exact replacement, also a Garrett .50 trim for $170 shipped with no shaft play, etc. etc. The guy upgraded to a GT35R and YES a filter is going on this time
I am just curious, what would say a GT35R would cost from your point of view? lol just wondering what ridiculous numbers you gonna throw for that.... Are you some kind of agent for a big brand turbo manufacturer? ...hmmm...
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Garrett prices for some turbos went up, while others go down. You can find all the ebay $170 turbos you'd like, but for the real thing, you'll expect to pay more. I'm just giving you a heads up for the sticker shock from reputable dealers, and not e-bay sales monkeys.
True GT35Rs are now going on average of $1480-$1500. E-bay versions are significantly less.
I'm a Garrett/borg-warner/Ishikawa (IHI), and Mitsubishi design engineer, so I sort of have an inside as to what's going on in those 3 companies. Just telling you how it is. It's really none of my concern if you find your best deal somewhere. I was simply trying to help with showing your options. but good luck to you.
True GT35Rs are now going on average of $1480-$1500. E-bay versions are significantly less.
I'm a Garrett/borg-warner/Ishikawa (IHI), and Mitsubishi design engineer, so I sort of have an inside as to what's going on in those 3 companies. Just telling you how it is. It's really none of my concern if you find your best deal somewhere. I was simply trying to help with showing your options. but good luck to you.
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I was only stating something that should have been common sense, but I guess I should have known you had none when you asked if that turbo could still be used with half the blades missing.
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Garrett prices for some turbos went up, while others go down. You can find all the ebay $170 turbos you'd like, but for the real thing, you'll expect to pay more. I'm just giving you a heads up for the sticker shock from reputable dealers, and not e-bay sales monkeys.
True GT35Rs are now going on average of $1480-$1500. E-bay versions are significantly less.
I'm a Garrett/borg-warner/Ishikawa (IHI), and Mitsubishi design engineer, so I sort of have an inside as to what's going on in those 3 companies. Just telling you how it is. It's really none of my concern if you find your best deal somewhere. I was simply trying to help with showing your options. but good luck to you.
True GT35Rs are now going on average of $1480-$1500. E-bay versions are significantly less.
I'm a Garrett/borg-warner/Ishikawa (IHI), and Mitsubishi design engineer, so I sort of have an inside as to what's going on in those 3 companies. Just telling you how it is. It's really none of my concern if you find your best deal somewhere. I was simply trying to help with showing your options. but good luck to you.
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Ok grandpa I will take your advise from now on. Do you need me to go milk the cow now grandpa for your evening coffee?
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says the guy who runs a turbo with no air filter...
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thats what im sayin if ur not gonna run a air filter cause it looks or sounds cooler atleast run a screen with a hose clamp. but an air filter is 100% better. there is really no gain in anything running no air filter . but im gonna agree with him get a used turbo like u said with no shaft play waywayway cheaper then droping 500 to 1000 bucks i see them all day around the indiana area..
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And that turbo being better than an ebay turbo with missing blades haha garret makes decent turbos but I would pay to see that. Please try this and be sure to record it.
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The blades are not missing but chipped off a bit and you're sayin the Ebay ching-chong turbo is better than a Garrett?? Garrett is made here in USA you ricer. lol.
LOL milking the cow without a pail - I can tell you were farm raised in the barn lol. Your car pic reminds me of ma cow Bertha btw - all black and white with a full body (kit) lol.
LOL milking the cow without a pail - I can tell you were farm raised in the barn lol. Your car pic reminds me of ma cow Bertha btw - all black and white with a full body (kit) lol.
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LOL guys, I'm just f**kin wit yall lol - dont get mad cos I'm :D when I type this **** hahahahah. Don't worry next turbo is gettin at least a screen on it before I even move the car ok? and I dont have a cow although I wish I did with milkmaid incl. lol.
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I would recommend what Shodan said buy a new unit and be sure it will last.The only way to really know whats going on in a used unit is to take it apart and check the cartridge and all internal parts.Shaft play isnt a definitive answer to whether a turbo is in good working order.You have already lost what you spent on this turbo plus what you need to spend now on a replacemnet for not using a 30 dollar filter and with that size turbo not using a filter may gain you 1 to 2 ponies so whats the benefit in not using one.