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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 12:12 PM
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just got my turbo kit in from greg at go autosports. I was wondering if anyone could throw me some good advise before I start installing this on my car. Advise such as is it ok to just finger tighten the arp exhaust manifold studs? Should I anti seeze them? or use assembly lube on the threads, or just thread them in finger tight and dry....

also where the down pipe meets exhaust side of the turbo is there any kind of studs or bolts I should use there other than the standard bolts I was given to keep things from backing out? should I use any liquid gasket products with the factory gaskets while mating the turbo with the header, and or downpipe? Oil lines... should I use something on the threads for a leak tight seal? I am smart enough to not use plumbers thread tape lol!

Any advise that you could share with me would be great. I don't want to install this kit like I did my first one. Thanks!
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 12:59 PM
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I used lock washers on my exhaust manifold and turbo bolts, but some people use threadlock/anti-seize. As for the oil lines, yes use teflon tape. OEM gaskets should be sufficient to mate the manifold to the head, but turbo-manifold connection may need high-temp RTV.

By the way, its Go-Autoworks**
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 01:08 PM
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When I installed my kit from them. I used liquid tethlon on oil fittings into block, but on the line it self to the turbo I didn't. I used lock tight blue on turbo to manifoild and manifold to head.

Otherwise it's pretty straight forward. Don't forget to clock the turbo before you install it.
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Schister66
I used lock washers on my exhaust manifold and turbo bolts, but some people use threadlock/anti-seize. As for the oil lines, yes use teflon tape. OEM gaskets should be sufficient to mate the manifold to the head, but turbo-manifold connection may need high-temp RTV.

By the way, its Go-Autoworks**
NO. do not use teflon tape. Use Teflon PASTE or liquid thread sealant. the tape can break off and enter into the oil passage of the inlet causing blockage like an artery that moved a block of cholesterol.

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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 01:14 PM
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NO. do not use teflon tape. Use Teflon PASTE or liquid thread sealant.
Good to know...and to be honest, i didnt know teflon paste existed. Looks like I dodged a bullet on my last few setups, since they all had teflon taped oil lines
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 01:17 PM
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I normally use a bit of Hylomar blue. I'm pretty sure it'll more or less like the stuff you posted above...
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Schister66
Good to know...and to be honest, i didnt know teflon paste existed. Looks like I dodged a bullet on my last few setups, since they all had teflon taped oil lines
no worries, its when there's too much on the tip of the fitting going to the turbo. so this typically helps avoid that problem.
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 01:23 PM
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Thank you for the advise!
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 01:30 PM
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When I installed my kit from them. I used liquid tethlon on oil fittings into block, but on the line it self to the turbo I didn't. I used lock tight blue on turbo to manifoild and manifold to head.

Otherwise it's pretty straight forward. Don't forget to clock the turbo before you install it.
How about arp exhaust mainifold studs? do I just hand tighten them into the head side, then use blue lock tight to install the nuts on the header side? I assume most people bolt the turbo to the exhaust manifold and then install the whole piece onto the head.
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 90210tegrunner
How about arp exhaust mainifold studs? do I just hand tighten them into the head side, then use blue lock tight to install the nuts on the header side? I assume most people bolt the turbo to the exhaust manifold and then install the whole piece onto the head.
Yes. For those that use them. I had OEM for 10 years until recently. I'm now switching over because they finally went, so I'll go through the standard ARP instructions that go with the kit. Its rather pricey, but worth it. Luckily I had to remove most of it anyway, as I'm switching some other equipment around.
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 01:52 PM
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I'm running uprated exhaust studs as well. The studs I'm running aren't ARP's though. I couldn't weigh up the cost of them against the set I could get. I'm sure they'll be plenty of other decent alternatives if the ARP's work out to be too expensive. Specially over in the US...
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 02:09 PM
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no worries, its when there's too much on the tip of the fitting going to the turbo. so this typically helps avoid that problem.
This is the common myth BS that gets spread around. It is another common example of USER ERROR. You can use the correct Teflon tape without issue or fail. Most have no clue how to APPLY the tape. You aren't supposed to wrap the first couple threads and only 2 wraps at the most on the threads. Too many people over use it and don't use the appropriate width either. This coupled with the fact that people go to the Dollar Store and pick up some of the cheapest garbage they can for 10¢…

The paste can do the same EXACT thing as tape when misused. Most people don't follow the instructions and let them set up properly. They also use more past than needed and coat the entire thread length. But saying one is better than the other because of user error is asinine.
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by N3va3vaSatisfi3d
This is the common myth BS that gets spread around. It is another common example of USER ERROR. You can use the correct Teflon tape without issue or fail. Most have no clue how to APPLY the tape. You aren't supposed to wrap the first couple threads and only 2 wraps at the most on the threads. Too many people over use it and don't use the appropriate width either. This coupled with the fact that people go to the Dollar Store and pick up some of the cheapest garbage they can for 10¢…

The paste can do the same EXACT thing as tape when misused. Most people don't follow the instructions and let them set up properly. They also use more past than needed and coat the entire thread length. But saying one is better than the other because of user error is asinine.
I mention this N3V3R to reduce the likelihood of the possibility of error. Like you've always said, you have to come with the presumption that user error is a factor in ALL situations of installation.

Now.. How many turbochargers have you pulled apart to find damage from teflon tape vs the paste when applied correctly? How many repairs? how many service tags have you had to create to tell the person (Be it OEM of aftermarket) that "sorry, it was because of your use of this teflon tape that caused a severe blockage in your oil feed system , and why your turbine shaft is blued as a result of it"..

Fine, you think its BS, but instead of coming with a better idea, or even showing how it SHOULD be applied, you go on the attack again.

I offer to help people, help themselves, so that there are no issues later. You want to call foul, fine.. But as of now, I don't see you offering a better solution than what is presented. So relax.. k?

I love ya like a play-cousin , but sometimes, you gotta calm the **** down.. It is not that serious.

Maybe I need to send over a female from the strip to cool you out (I have your credit card number, so you're good.. j/k ).. let you release some of that pensive aggression. You know, so you can feel younger again after you 've applied some icey-hot.
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 04:44 PM
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I assure you, you don't have MY credit card. I thought we sorted that one out already, I just facilitated the purchase... So charge away - you know where to send them.

Actually, I was going to do a little write up possibly. I looked at dozens of pictures and a few dozen write ups - they are vague or COMPLETELY wrong. It is ridiculous. No wonder why people suck so bad... the Internet is good and extremely bad at the same time.
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by N3va3vaSatisfi3d
I assure you, you don't have MY credit card. I thought we sorted that one out already, I just facilitated the purchase... So charge away - you know where to send them.

Actually, I was going to do a little write up possibly. I looked at dozens of pictures and a few dozen write ups - they are vague or COMPLETELY wrong. It is ridiculous. No wonder why people suck so bad... the Internet is good and extremely bad at the same time.
Was it just me, or did anyone see the abbreviation of "J/K" defined as "just kidding in regards to the credit card thing.

Have a bran muffin already Dom. Jesus...

I think that saying you'll have several write ups is a bit too little too late, considering the length of time you've been on here and your unique experiences on this forum.

Hopefully you'll be able present your information in an informative and educational manner without the need of being condescending or hurtful. I doubt it, ( with regards to being disrespectful or condescending), but one can hope for the best and expect the worst, right?

Time to find that sense of humor sitting in the cobwebs of your soul, my friend.
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No, no, no... I was joking back. Hehe. It is all good bud. BUT, I will say this, my name is NOT Dominic. That is my sons friend. So it won't affect me. Haha... you make me laugh all the time though. I like your style (although at times you confuse me with slang). I promise, 9 times out of 10 I am laughing to myself every time. There is this saying I have had for quite some time - "I would rather be a smartass, than be a dumbass."

You will know when I am serious - I will try to belittle you. I know you have seen it, so YOU need to calm down and enjoy the sunshine! Too bad massive video conferencing hasn't been created. It would eliminate a lot of the guess work on the Internet. Ever since I started using my phone to "forum", I don't take the time to type eloquently anymore. Takes much too long.
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 05:36 PM
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^^^ to add on, both work past/tape. works even better using both at the same time (but is a over kill)

OP I'm using oem bolts for the manifold to head.
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by N3va3vaSatisfi3d
No, no, no... I was joking back. Hehe. It is all good bud. BUT, I will say this, my name is NOT Dominic. That is my sons friend. So it won't affect me. Haha... you make me laugh all the time though. I like your style (although at times you confuse me with slang). I promise, 9 times out of 10 I am laughing to myself every time. There is this saying I have had for quite some time - "I would rather be a smartass, than be a dumbass."

You will know when I am serious - I will try to belittle you. I know you have seen it, so YOU need to calm down and enjoy the sunshine! Too bad massive video conferencing hasn't been created. It would eliminate a lot of the guess work on the Internet. Ever since I started using my phone to "forum", I don't take the time to type eloquently anymore. Takes much too long.
No problem. I like you say you'll "try" to belittle me. Haha. And sorry for the name mishap. But you still need a bran muffin
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