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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 10:09 PM
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Dont know where to run the lines coming out of my turbo. I got the oil lines covered. But see the blue vacuum line coming out of turbo, does this go to map sensor? and also the two thick yellow lines, do they go to a manual boost controller or what? and if so how will i know which line is air out and which one is air in? thanks



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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 10:12 PM
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 10:45 PM
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If that's a ball bearing turbo the yellow lines coming off of the turbo are coolant lines. You will need to provide a supply and return from your engine. The blue small line seems to be coming off of the compressor housing of your turbo which would hook up to some sort of boost controller; whatever it is you decide to install.
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Old Aug 7, 2008 | 07:33 AM
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it is a ball bearing turbo, thanks. its a garrret gt2510, where would you suggest running these coolant lines to? and also would you say i should run the wastgate open atmosphere or tie into the vacuum system somewhere? i have a blox vacuum manifold if that helps and this is also going on a b16a
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Old Aug 7, 2008 | 07:57 AM
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the blue line should go to your wastegate, and yes the yellow lines are for coolant-you can run these into your heater hoses.
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Old Aug 7, 2008 | 09:01 AM
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is this true for internally wastegated turbos as well? asking because turbo was used and the blue line is awfully long to just run it straight over to wastegate. like probaly 8 times longer than it would need to be to just run over to the wastgate. i can take pics of my install process if need be
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Old Aug 7, 2008 | 09:03 PM
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IDEALLY the blue line would operate the wastegate, but whoever was using it before probably was using it for a boost gauge, OR, had it going to a boost controller then from the boost controller running back to the wastegate.
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 05:57 AM
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Awesome, thanks greatly for the feedback. It was very helpful
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 08:46 AM
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Since nobody mentioned what does go to the MAP sensor, I will: the MAP sensor must be plumbed to the intake manifold downstream of the throttle body.
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 06:44 PM
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well i got everything hooked up and it running pretty good. have slight oil leak though, believe its from my return line When it gets into boost/ bout to hit vtec point, my car feels like it goes into limp mode and bogs out basically. Im still running stock injectors, stock tune, and stock map (tuned ecu, motorola 2.5 bar map, and some 345cc injectors on the way, taking forever to get here.) im thinking this limp mode is cause of the map sensor but im only running 7 pounds and i thought the stock map was good for 10? am i wrong
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 07:15 PM
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whatever you do....dont trying ripping on your car with the stock ecu and injectors, you will blow your engine its simply just not setup for that.
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 08:26 PM
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yeah i figured that. i drove it around just to make sure everything was good but wouldnt let it ge into boost really at all. i only did one pull in first gear but as soon as it tried to hit vtec it just limped out
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 10:09 PM
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Im surprised your engine is still running after that ONE pull It only takes a few seconds in boost on a stock ecu to melt pistons...
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 11:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94delslo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im surprised your engine is still running after that ONE pull It only takes a few seconds in boost on a stock ecu to melt pistons...</TD></TR></TABLE>

truth.

i wouldnt be surprised if that one run did irreversible damage.
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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 07:20 AM
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then how would you even tune your car properly without running it? im pretty sure ive heard of ppl boosting using stock ecus... which isnt my plan at all anyways, ive ordered a tuned ecu for my setup from phearable but they haven't been too concerned about getting it to me it seems
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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 07:31 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boostnbee &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">then how would you even tune your car properly without running it? im pretty sure ive heard of ppl boosting using stock ecus... which isnt my plan at all anyways, ive ordered a tuned ecu for my setup from phearable but they haven't been too concerned about getting it to me it seems</TD></TR></TABLE>

basemaps.
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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 08:19 AM
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alright, well with that said i DEFinitely wont even start my car again til my ecu injectors and map make it here. how close do you think my chipped ecu from phearable will be to a good tune for my setup considering he set it up for all my specs? also if my car is still running perfectly even after the pull, even drove it 5 miles to my house to park it ( stayed out of boost the whole time) then do yall really think anything is damaged? and is there anyways to check if the pistons got melted at all without tearing down my motor? you guys got me worried, i reakky hope i didnt tear anything up just getting into boost one time
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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 08:26 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boostnbee &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">alright, well with that said i DEFinitely wont even start my car again til my ecu injectors and map make it here. how close do you think my chipped ecu from phearable will be to a good tune for my setup considering he set it up for all my specs? also if my car is still running perfectly even after the pull, even drove it 5 miles to my house to park it ( stayed out of boost the whole time) then do yall really think anything is damaged? and is there anyways to check if the pistons got melted at all without tearing down my motor? you guys got me worried, i reakky hope i didnt tear anything up just getting into boost one time</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm too lazy to read what you just wrote (I just woke up). But get a basemap for your setup, drive it to your tuner WITHOUT getting into boost, and get it tuned. Then have all the fun you want.
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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 08:33 AM
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do a compression and leakdown test to make sure everything is ok.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boostnbee &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how close do you think my chipped ecu from phearable will be to a good tune for my setup considering he set it up for all my specs?</TD></TR></TABLE>

You have to remember that chip you ordered is a basemap. That means it is just something that will be able to get your car up and running so you can safely drive it to a competent tuner out of boost. Sure there are people that boost on basemaps but in my opinion they are stupid for doing so. Their motor is a ticking time bomb until the inevitable happens because they are using a borrowed tune off of a totally different motor that is probably halfway around the world. 99% of people blow their motors because they skimp out of spending a few hundred dollars to get their $3k+ engine properly tuned. Get tuned and safe yourself the headache
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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 10:28 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94delslo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do a compression and leakdown test to make sure everything is ok.



You have to remember that chip you ordered is a basemap. That means it is just something that will be able to get your car up and running so you can safely drive it to a competent tuner out of boost. Sure there are people that boost on basemaps but in my opinion they are stupid for doing so. Their motor is a ticking time bomb until the inevitable happens because they are using a borrowed tune off of a totally different motor that is probably halfway around the world. 99% of people blow their motors because they skimp out of spending a few hundred dollars to get their $3k+ engine properly tuned. Get tuned and safe yourself the headache </TD></TR></TABLE>

Ive never seen the point of basemaps-

What i do, is take out the wastegate spring, and drive it to the tuner with factory ecu/injectors- that way you cant hit a single PSI of boost and it runs just like factory
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 04:35 PM
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That was the perfect answer, dam.
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 10:45 PM
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seems like im going to do the same thing. thanks
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 11:28 PM
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I had my turbo map in the car before the turbo was even in the car.

That way, i was able to work out any kinks in the basemap for bigger injectors before crying wolf and blaming the turbo. Good thing I did, the car ran like *** on the basemap that I had.
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 07:25 AM
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well of course your car is gonna run like *** on a basemap for a turbo setup when you dont even have your turbo on. thats just like the reversal of what everyones been sayin - turbo + stock map = bad. same thing for turbo map... turbo basemap + stock motor = bad.
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 11:16 AM
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i bet that turbo sits uber low...hopefully you wont have drain probs with it
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