which turbo to get t3 60-1 or sc50
02-06-2004, 06:57 PM
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which turbo to get t3 60-1 or sc50
well im looking for a turbo but i dont know which one to get now... i wanna get the right turbo this time... im looking at either a
t3 60-1 with upgraded s housing...
or
sc50 turbine t3 w/ .48 AR, 69trim, stage 2 wheel....compressor is a t04e 50 trim
will go on a fully built d series motor... and looking to get around 350-450HP or more later on
t3 60-1 with upgraded s housing...
or
sc50 turbine t3 w/ .48 AR, 69trim, stage 2 wheel....compressor is a t04e 50 trim
will go on a fully built d series motor... and looking to get around 350-450HP or more later on
02-07-2004, 09:49 AM
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Re: which turbo to get t3 60-1 or sc50 (SPOON_BeIgHtEeNsEe)
not sure about the 60-1 on the D16 the SC50 will support high 300whp/400whp @ high boost more than likely. AR Fab's d16 made like 398whp @ like 30psi on the SC50. The SC60 (similar to the run of the mill Garrett T3/T04E 60 trim) is what ill be running on my motor. It should be able to support those higher hp numbers ur looking for and Turbodcx has ran a 60 trim on his D16 and made some good #'s. It's funny because when I was choosing a turbo it was hard to decide because not many people run big turbos on D's
02-07-2004, 03:58 PM
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Re: which turbo to get t3 60-1 or sc50 (SPOON_BeIgHtEeNsEe)
I'm going with an SC50 .48 A/R. I bought it from Boosted-Hybrid. It's brand new and has a custom 4 bolt exhaust housing. Should be good for around 400whp and a VERY FAST spool.
02-07-2004, 04:05 PM
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Re: which turbo to get t3 60-1 or sc50 (RyanCivic2000)
The t3 60 trim is an excellent turbo for a street d series. However, its just not engough for 400whp 
Now I'm re-reading your post and you say t3 60-1???? Do you mean t4 60-1???? AFAIK their is no t3 60-1. Their is a t3 60 trim and a t3 super 60.
Now I'm re-reading your post and you say t3 60-1???? Do you mean t4 60-1???? AFAIK their is no t3 60-1. Their is a t3 60 trim and a t3 super 60.
02-07-2004, 04:07 PM
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Re: which turbo to get t3 60-1 or sc50 (danl)
yes there is a T3/60-1... it's a T04 compressor side with the 60-1 wheel with a T3 turbine such as...
http://store.yahoo.com/cheaptu....html
T4/60-1 is the same with a T4 turbine...
http://store.yahoo.com/cheaptu....html
http://store.yahoo.com/cheaptu....html
T4/60-1 is the same with a T4 turbine...
http://store.yahoo.com/cheaptu....html
02-07-2004, 04:13 PM
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Re: which turbo to get t3 60-1 or sc50 (danl)
i was thinking about getting the t3 60-1 and add alittle nitrious to help it spool... but i dont know if i wanna go that route... i just want a turbo thatll give me atleast 350-450hp... i wanted to get a sc61 but cant find it at the right price... and the sc50 price is pretty good... but i think its alittle small i want something big...
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Re: which turbo to get t3 60-1 or sc50 (CivicRyda2k)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CivicRyda2k »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yes there is a T3/60-1... it's a T04 compressor side with the 60-1 wheel with a T3 turbine such as...
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Thats a t3/t4. The compressor wheel however is a T4 in your link. What the turbine side is does not affect what the compressor side is called. So theirfore their is no 60-1 T3.
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Thats a t3/t4. The compressor wheel however is a T4 in your link. What the turbine side is does not affect what the compressor side is called. So theirfore their is no 60-1 T3.
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Re: which turbo to get t3 60-1 or sc50 (SPOON_BeIgHtEeNsEe)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SPOON_BeIgHtEeNsEe »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i was thinking about getting the t3 60-1 and add alittle nitrious to help it spool... but i dont know if i wanna go that route... i just want a turbo thatll give me atleast 350-450hp... i wanted to get a sc61 but cant find it at the right price... and the sc50 price is pretty good... but i think its alittle small i want something big...</TD></TR></TABLE>
SC50 too small? You just said all you want is 350-450 which is right in the SC50's efficiency range. It's just the right size for that amount of power and will be able to spool faster than bigger turbos.
SC50 too small? You just said all you want is 350-450 which is right in the SC50's efficiency range. It's just the right size for that amount of power and will be able to spool faster than bigger turbos.
02-07-2004, 04:27 PM
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SC50 with the .63ar turbine and stage 3 wheel.
The 60-1 is a little too big for your goals, and will just limit you in other areas (spool up).
The SC50 with the .48 turbine is too small for 400ish hp, but with the .63ar it will be perfect. We've seen a 50 trim turbo with these specs do 500whp...so its definetly good for you.
SC50 with the .63ar turbine and stage 3 wheel.
The 60-1 is a little too big for your goals, and will just limit you in other areas (spool up).
The SC50 with the .48 turbine is too small for 400ish hp, but with the .63ar it will be perfect. We've seen a 50 trim turbo with these specs do 500whp...so its definetly good for you.
02-07-2004, 04:34 PM
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Re: (Bryson)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bryson »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Reccomendation?
SC50 with the .63ar turbine and stage 3 wheel.
The 60-1 is a little too big for your goals, and will just limit you in other areas (spool up).
The SC50 with the .48 turbine is too small for 400ish hp, but with the .63ar it will be perfect. We've seen a 50 trim turbo with these specs do 500whp...so its definetly good for you.</TD></TR></TABLE>
On a SOHC keeping the stock redline of 7000rpm the .48 A/R should be ideal for a good powerband and quick spool. The power won't choke at those rpms. The .48 A/R should make 350-400 WHP. Precision rates it at 450 crank hp.
SC50 with the .63ar turbine and stage 3 wheel.
The 60-1 is a little too big for your goals, and will just limit you in other areas (spool up).
The SC50 with the .48 turbine is too small for 400ish hp, but with the .63ar it will be perfect. We've seen a 50 trim turbo with these specs do 500whp...so its definetly good for you.</TD></TR></TABLE>
On a SOHC keeping the stock redline of 7000rpm the .48 A/R should be ideal for a good powerband and quick spool. The power won't choke at those rpms. The .48 A/R should make 350-400 WHP. Precision rates it at 450 crank hp.
02-07-2004, 08:32 PM
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Re: (RyanCivic2000)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RyanCivic2000 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
On a SOHC keeping the stock redline of 7000rpm the .48 A/R should be ideal for a good powerband and quick spool. The power won't choke at those rpms. The .48 A/R should make 350-400 WHP. Precision rates it at 450 crank hp.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm not doubting you, but I have yet to see a .48 turbine go to 400whp...I guess I'll have to see it to beleive it.
On a SOHC keeping the stock redline of 7000rpm the .48 A/R should be ideal for a good powerband and quick spool. The power won't choke at those rpms. The .48 A/R should make 350-400 WHP. Precision rates it at 450 crank hp.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm not doubting you, but I have yet to see a .48 turbine go to 400whp...I guess I'll have to see it to beleive it.
02-07-2004, 08:46 PM
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Re: (Bryson)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bryson »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Reccomendation?
SC50 with the .63ar turbine and stage 3 wheel.
The 60-1 is a little too big for your goals, and will just limit you in other areas (spool up).
The SC50 with the .48 turbine is too small for 400ish hp, but with the .63ar it will be perfect. We've seen a 50 trim turbo with these specs do 500whp...so its definetly good for you.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Wow its like Bryson read my mind, thats exactly the same set-up im running with, but im putting it on my d15b vtec. Get the sc50 with the .63 ar and the stage 3 wheel as bryson said above, you'll have alot better pull up top and im sure it will satisfy your power needs alot better than the smaller .48 turbine
SC50 with the .63ar turbine and stage 3 wheel.
The 60-1 is a little too big for your goals, and will just limit you in other areas (spool up).
The SC50 with the .48 turbine is too small for 400ish hp, but with the .63ar it will be perfect. We've seen a 50 trim turbo with these specs do 500whp...so its definetly good for you.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Wow its like Bryson read my mind, thats exactly the same set-up im running with, but im putting it on my d15b vtec. Get the sc50 with the .63 ar and the stage 3 wheel as bryson said above, you'll have alot better pull up top and im sure it will satisfy your power needs alot better than the smaller .48 turbine
02-07-2004, 10:10 PM
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Re: (Silverbeast)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Silverbeast »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">T3/T4e, 57trim, .63AR stage 5 wheel, 360 thrust bearing, might do the trick.
Just my opinion.
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Stage 5 wheel is too big. It wouldn't reach full boost until 5K.
Just my opinion.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Stage 5 wheel is too big. It wouldn't reach full boost until 5K.
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Re: which turbo to get t3 60-1 or sc50 (danl)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by danl »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Thats a t3/t4. The compressor wheel however is a T4 in your link. What the turbine side is does not affect what the compressor side is called. So theirfore their is no 60-1 T3.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yah... i know there is no T3 60-1 compressor wheel. but people refer to that turbo as a t3/60-1. that's all i was saying
Thats a t3/t4. The compressor wheel however is a T4 in your link. What the turbine side is does not affect what the compressor side is called. So theirfore their is no 60-1 T3.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yah... i know there is no T3 60-1 compressor wheel. but people refer to that turbo as a t3/60-1. that's all i was saying
02-08-2004, 08:52 AM
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so u guys think the SC50 with the .63ar turbine and stage 3 wheel is the turbo for me??? who has the best prices on these turbos? i need one asap...
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Re: (SPOON_BeIgHtEeNsEe)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SPOON_BeIgHtEeNsEe »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so u guys think the SC50 with the .63ar turbine and stage 3 wheel is the turbo for me??? who has the best prices on these turbos? i need one asap...</TD></TR></TABLE>
I've found 2 extremely good sellers with extremely good prices so far. Camp1320 has been the cheapest thus far at 650 shipped, and wiredspeedlab comes in with a close 2nd at 695 shipped.
I've found 2 extremely good sellers with extremely good prices so far. Camp1320 has been the cheapest thus far at 650 shipped, and wiredspeedlab comes in with a close 2nd at 695 shipped.
02-12-2004, 09:52 AM
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Re: (SPOON_BeIgHtEeNsEe)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SPOON_BeIgHtEeNsEe »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so u guys think the SC50 with the .63ar turbine and stage 3 wheel is the turbo for me??? who has the best prices on these turbos? i need one asap...</TD></TR></TABLE>
My vote still goes for the .48 A/R unless you plan on making over 400whp. The .48 will be maxed around 30-32psi with 400whp and an ultra fast spool.
My vote still goes for the .48 A/R unless you plan on making over 400whp. The .48 will be maxed around 30-32psi with 400whp and an ultra fast spool.
02-12-2004, 10:09 AM
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cool nice discussion here !
I have my SC50 .63 a/r ... but what is a * stage 3 * wheels ??
also I want to run on 94 octane fuel with my 680cc injectors.... what kind of power I could expect... I want the max of it ... my engine is build...
I have my SC50 .63 a/r ... but what is a * stage 3 * wheels ??
also I want to run on 94 octane fuel with my 680cc injectors.... what kind of power I could expect... I want the max of it ... my engine is build...
02-12-2004, 10:22 AM
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Re: (RyanCivic2000)
Dont listen to what every one says bro.!!
I ran a .60 timr T3/T4 last year and made 343 Whp. It had a .63 A/R on the hot side and spool plenty fast. Most of these guys are telling you info that they dont even really know about. I KNOW for a fact that i could see a full 20+PSi by 4500-5000.
This year i am going to be running a T3/60-1 with a .63 A/R on the hot side and i am aiming for 450+ WHP on what ever boost it takes to get me there. The 60-1 flows about 10 lbs more air per Lb of boost compared to the .60 trim T3/T4.
HTH
Brian
I ran a .60 timr T3/T4 last year and made 343 Whp. It had a .63 A/R on the hot side and spool plenty fast. Most of these guys are telling you info that they dont even really know about. I KNOW for a fact that i could see a full 20+PSi by 4500-5000.
This year i am going to be running a T3/60-1 with a .63 A/R on the hot side and i am aiming for 450+ WHP on what ever boost it takes to get me there. The 60-1 flows about 10 lbs more air per Lb of boost compared to the .60 trim T3/T4.
HTH
Brian
