ok ive been wanting to get turbo-edit for awhile but can some1 show me what all i need to buy to get started......ive been to the site and havent seen much info there. also what ecu would be better to use? i have a 90 pm6 and a pr3ecu. this will be for a turbo z6 setup. any info will help.

 

buy a Hondata

 

http://www.green91.com/tuning.htm
http://www.xenocron.com/te/

 

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he didn't ask for Hondata

 

i didn't know hondata made stuff for obd0, news to me


anyways, def check out http://www.pgmfi.org

 

yah, check out pgmfi...also, do a recent search on turboedit...i believe somebody made a writeup on how to burn the eproms and how to make basemaps and such.

 

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First off **** hondata rip off,

you wanna use the pm6 or the ps9 ecu, the pr3 doesnt have a boost code and doesnt look like there is much development, first u would socket your pm6 and then burn a base map which you would tune. Any more questions hit me up with an im

 

thanks for the help guys , looks like ill be selling the pr3 soon.

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I have tuned with about every rom editing software out there for the hondas and after all of my research I went with the Hondata system. I have an EET "electrical engineering" degree and began researcing a good rom editing software/hardware package to use for my shop. I used turbo edit, uberdata, ghettodyne, and the list goes on and on. After all of that I ended up forking out the cash and going with the Hondata system. I understand going with some of theses to save money but if you have a Hondata dealer/tuner near you that is the best way to go. You can pick up a used system very cheap and then you can just have them tune it for you. You have so many more options for expansion with the Hondata systems. They are tried and true. You can use the Hondata systems on the OBD-0, OBD-1, OBD-2, and OBD-2.5 cars.

For all the haters: Why so much anger? "F#@%" Hondata??? Is that necessary? Could you all please let me know why you "do" dislike Hondata systems so much? I am not being facetious in asking, I just want to know since I am an authorized Hondata dealer / tuner it is nice to know your thoughts. Thank you.

 

he's just upset bc he doesn't have the cash to spend on hondata

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DSLHONDA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have tuned with about every rom editing software out there for the hondas and after all of my research I went with the Hondata system. I have an EET "electrical engineering" degree and began researcing a good rom editing software/hardware package to use for my shop. I used turbo edit, uberdata, ghettodyne, and the list goes on and on. After all of that I ended up forking out the cash and going with the Hondata system. I understand going with some of theses to save money but if you have a Hondata dealer/tuner near you that is the best way to go. You can pick up a used system very cheap and then you can just have them tune it for you. You have so many more options for expansion with the Hondata systems. They are tried and true. You can use the Hondata systems on the OBD-0, OBD-1, OBD-2, and OBD-2.5 cars.

For all the haters: Why so much anger? "F#@%" Hondata??? Is that necessary? Could you all please let me know why you "do" dislike Hondata systems so much? I am not being facetious in asking, I just want to know since I am an authorized Hondata dealer / tuner it is nice to know your thoughts. Thank you.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm surprised that with your EE degree you find Hondata a better option. Hondata is not a bad option for an enthusiast who doesnt have the time or talent to learn an EMS and can substitute cash for the ability to do so. Any DIYer that buys Hondata and tunes it themself is purely wasting $$$.

DIY editors like Uberdata, Crome, TurboEdit and the like offer the same features, better customer support (Hondata's cust. serv. especialy for Obd1 stuff has gone down the pooper as of late), and take away much less from your wallet.

Plus, in the process of learning these DIY editors you learn TONS about your car and can take pride in doing it yourself.

Hondata doesnt care about OBD1 anymore...they realize that these free editors are just as good as what they offer for $500-1000 more. They are concentrating on K-Pro stuff and thats fine...but it pisses me off that they seemingly dont care about any of their OBD1 customers or potential customers. Do they even post on here anymore?

There are lots of links about TurboEdit...one of mine is above.

If you want to get serious about TurboEdit, come to http://www.homemadeturbo.com. The DIY community there is great...we have all been through the bugs, the problems and we help each other out.

If you have any specific TurboEdit questions...feel free to PM me here. I have been unofficially dubbed 'TurboEdit Customer Support'

Chris

 

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Did you want a cookie? Im in EET too and for some reason our class hasn't gone over which rom editing software to go with yet.

Im sorry but that was a really pointless comment that means NOTHING.

Your reasoning was only because there's more Hondata tuners. You mentioned NOTHING technical to support your opinion.

 

First of all let me address the hater: Yes a comment about one's degree in EE is relivant when discussing the topic of ecu modification, and chip tuning. No I do not want a cookie, what I do want is for people like yourself to try and participater in the conversation at hand in a mature way, and if you can't do that without going off on irelivant topics "wheather an eet degree is relevat" then don't bother posting in a thread where others are trying to have an inteligent conversation about making a car go faster and run better. I am in no way trying to start anything or inflame you with my statements, rather I wish you to continue in our conversation without bothering with the irrelivant statments as stated before. Thank you.

Now about the Hondata since I have EE experience. Well, I am looking at this from a business standpoint. I do not have the time to mess with products that are not developed to the point that Hondata is. I need products that are tried and true and there is no gray area left for me to figure out. If I were just doing this for myself I would have no problem with some of the other systems out there but I need to sell a product, install, and tune it and be done with it. It is alot easier for me to sell Hondata (they sell theirselves) than it is another "offbrand" that I have to explain why they want this one and all of that. Also, since I do have the EE experience this is why the tech help and other things mentioned does not matter to me. Hondata has been very helpful for me in the past when I did need help and this is on OBD0-K series. I do understand that everyone has different experiences though.

I will look into the turbo edit since you do feel so strongly about it. I never rule out anything. I always keep my options and mind open to new ideas and product that have come along. Thank you for your info.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DSLHONDA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well, I am looking at this from a business standpoint. I do not have the time to mess with products that are not developed to the point that Hondata is. I need products that are tried and true and there is no gray area left for me to figure out. If I were just doing this for myself I would have no problem with some of the other systems out there but I need to sell a product, install, and tune it and be done with it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Uberdata and TurboEdit were never intended to be products of businesses. They are DIY tools that allow users to acheive the same results as commercial products out there as a severly discounted price, FREE.

If I was a serious full time tuner...I would be all over Hondata as well. It is where the money is but this is not what this is all about nor does it come close to the original question(s) asked in this thread.

 

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Uberdata and TurboEdit were never intended to be products of businesses. They are DIY tools that allow users to acheive the same results as commercial products out there as a severly discounted price, FREE.

If I was a serious full time tuner...I would be all over Hondata as well. It is where the money is but this is not what this is all about nor does it come close to the original question(s) asked in this thread.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Agreed
This is a point that many seem to miss.

 

Hondata is nice if you have the money. Tried and true.

Turboedit is also nice if you have the time and patience to figure it all out.

What baffles me is when the cheap bastards get on here and say Hondata sucks because you can have the same thing for free, waste of money, yadaya. That is just ignorant. Keep your opinions to yourself. Factual information is the best.

I realize that i added no factual info to this thread but i think both are great systems and the bashing of each other is pointless.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by g2turbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hondata is nice if you have the money. Tried and true.

Turboedit is also nice if you have the time and patience to figure it all out.

What baffles me is when the cheap bastards get on here and say Hondata sucks because you can have the same thing for free, waste of money, yadaya. That is just ignorant. Keep your opinions to yourself. Factual information is the best.

I realize that i added no factual info to this thread but i think both are great systems and the bashing of each other is pointless.</TD></TR></TABLE>

ok then tell me why hondata is 500 dollars better than uberdata, or chrome?

 

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ok then tell me why hondata is 500 dollars better than uberdata, or chrome? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Its not really about that...

What its worth varies from person to person. It may be worth $500 to some while its worth nothing to you and I.

If it wasnt for the innovations of Hondata and ZDYNE, who knows where we would be with DIY Honda EM.

What it really boils down to is what is it worth to you?

For me I get more out of spending less because I get to do it myself and learn about my car at the same time. Others just want to drive and show off their car.

Each to his own

 

uberdata, turboedit, etc.. is for people willing to learn to tune their car.

Hondata is for people who got $$ and can afford to pay someone else to tune for them.