Turbo B16a2 Build
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Turbo B16a2 Build
The car will be my daily in the summer time, Im aiming for atleast 350whp. Would like to get some experienced opinions and see if my goal is achievable with some reliability.
The motor is a B16a2
Wiseco 9:1
Eagle Rods
Acl race main and rod bearings
Stock Head
Turbo setup
Bullseye t3/t4 go autoworks spec turbo 0.70a/r
Trackforged Ram Horn
46mm Precision Wastegate
Custom dumptube
Full 3" exhaust
Mishimoto M Line Intercooler
3" Charge Pipes
Tial 50mm BOV
Mac Electronic Boost solenoid
Fuel System
Walbro 255lph pump
Full stainless steel lines from pump to rail -6feed, -4 return
Precision 780cc Injectors
91 Octane is the best we get here
This will all be dyno tuned on Hondata s300. Not sure which intake manifold Im going to use, thinking edelbrock and a 68 or 70mm throttle body. One of my main concerns is the stock head, do you guys recommend that I put some valve train in it? Anyway, thanks alot looking forward to the responses.
The motor is a B16a2
Wiseco 9:1
Eagle Rods
Acl race main and rod bearings
Stock Head
Turbo setup
Bullseye t3/t4 go autoworks spec turbo 0.70a/r
Trackforged Ram Horn
46mm Precision Wastegate
Custom dumptube
Full 3" exhaust
Mishimoto M Line Intercooler
3" Charge Pipes
Tial 50mm BOV
Mac Electronic Boost solenoid
Fuel System
Walbro 255lph pump
Full stainless steel lines from pump to rail -6feed, -4 return
Precision 780cc Injectors
91 Octane is the best we get here
This will all be dyno tuned on Hondata s300. Not sure which intake manifold Im going to use, thinking edelbrock and a 68 or 70mm throttle body. One of my main concerns is the stock head, do you guys recommend that I put some valve train in it? Anyway, thanks alot looking forward to the responses.
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Re: Turbo B16a2 Build
IMO:
-3" charge pipe set isnt needed, I'd use a 2.5" coldside/hotside
- stock fuel return hardline will work as well...you really dont need to change the feed line unless it is just a "want to" thing. You can convert the line at the firewall to -6 with a flareless fitting and -6AN it to the rail with an inline filter. We do this quite often on 92-00 Civics.
350whp is easily achivable on a stock B16 head without much effort. You can swap stock cams and retain the stock valvetrain as you wont have to rev the car past the stock limiter to make that power. A victor X is a great FI manifold IMO
-3" charge pipe set isnt needed, I'd use a 2.5" coldside/hotside
- stock fuel return hardline will work as well...you really dont need to change the feed line unless it is just a "want to" thing. You can convert the line at the firewall to -6 with a flareless fitting and -6AN it to the rail with an inline filter. We do this quite often on 92-00 Civics.
350whp is easily achivable on a stock B16 head without much effort. You can swap stock cams and retain the stock valvetrain as you wont have to rev the car past the stock limiter to make that power. A victor X is a great FI manifold IMO
Re: Turbo B16a2 Build
One of these days, we'll break you people of this fascination with lowered compression. Stock is 10.2:1. Stay around 10.5:1. That little motor needs all the help it can get in the torque department. Also, I'm not totally up to snuff on the limits of different fuels, so hopefully someone else chimes in on that, but 91 might be a limiting factor for you.
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Re: Turbo B16a2 Build
IMO:
-3" charge pipe set isnt needed, I'd use a 2.5" coldside/hotside
- stock fuel return hardline will work as well...you really dont need to change the feed line unless it is just a "want to" thing. You can convert the line at the firewall to -6 with a flareless fitting and -6AN it to the rail with an inline filter. We do this quite often on 92-00 Civics.
350whp is easily achivable on a stock B16 head without much effort. You can swap stock cams and retain the stock valvetrain as you wont have to rev the car past the stock limiter to make that power. A victor X is a great FI manifold IMO
-3" charge pipe set isnt needed, I'd use a 2.5" coldside/hotside
- stock fuel return hardline will work as well...you really dont need to change the feed line unless it is just a "want to" thing. You can convert the line at the firewall to -6 with a flareless fitting and -6AN it to the rail with an inline filter. We do this quite often on 92-00 Civics.
350whp is easily achivable on a stock B16 head without much effort. You can swap stock cams and retain the stock valvetrain as you wont have to rev the car past the stock limiter to make that power. A victor X is a great FI manifold IMO
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Re: Turbo B16a2 Build
One of these days, we'll break you people of this fascination with lowered compression. Stock is 10.2:1. Stay around 10.5:1. That little motor needs all the help it can get in the torque department. Also, I'm not totally up to snuff on the limits of different fuels, so hopefully someone else chimes in on that, but 91 might be a limiting factor for you.
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Re: Turbo B16a2 Build
Here's my current setup which is an SiRII JDM B16A from HMO + Y21 Hydro w/LSD . Stock block never been opened +
.57 Garrett T3/T4
Spoolin performance log
440cc Inj
255LPH Walbro
3" Ex from DP on out
38mm Tial WG
350 whp Precision IC
Stock Intake / LS TB
OEM B16 cams
250 WHP@7650 175WTQ@7000 with very flat TQ curve
Here's the mods I want for another 100WHP
725 or 1000cc ID's (Mtber says no difference in idle quality for same price)
GSR cams
GTX2860r
InlinePro manifold
or
SPA cast topmount
CP or Supertech pistons keeping compression in the 10.5:1 neighborhood
Eagle rods balanced
(will try to keep oil squirters by piston skirt clearance or by bending squirters if needed)
Optional if time/money provides....
P72 head after exchanging my PR3 core to Clearwater Cylinderhead
GSR BBK Intake
.57 Garrett T3/T4
Spoolin performance log
440cc Inj
255LPH Walbro
3" Ex from DP on out
38mm Tial WG
350 whp Precision IC
Stock Intake / LS TB
OEM B16 cams
250 WHP@7650 175WTQ@7000 with very flat TQ curve
Here's the mods I want for another 100WHP
725 or 1000cc ID's (Mtber says no difference in idle quality for same price)
GSR cams
GTX2860r
InlinePro manifold
or
SPA cast topmount
CP or Supertech pistons keeping compression in the 10.5:1 neighborhood
Eagle rods balanced
(will try to keep oil squirters by piston skirt clearance or by bending squirters if needed)
Optional if time/money provides....
P72 head after exchanging my PR3 core to Clearwater Cylinderhead
GSR BBK Intake
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Re: Turbo B16a2 Build
10.8 pistons
eagle rods
gsr cams
dont need a ramhorn, itll just shift your powerband.
50, 57trim, or tga 5454
oem intake manifold will suffice, but a pro series would be alot better
id1000s
walbro255hp
tial 38mm wastegate
3" downpipe
24 pack of coors
no reason why you want get 350 with these parts
eagle rods
gsr cams
dont need a ramhorn, itll just shift your powerband.
50, 57trim, or tga 5454
oem intake manifold will suffice, but a pro series would be alot better
id1000s
walbro255hp
tial 38mm wastegate
3" downpipe
24 pack of coors
no reason why you want get 350 with these parts
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Re: Turbo B16a2 Build
3" piping isn't needed until you get well over 500hp... On anything under that is just increases lag time. 2.5" is all you need.
Also a 46mm wastegate is overkill and the precision wastegates are total ****. Stick with TiAL or Turbosmart
Also a 46mm wastegate is overkill and the precision wastegates are total ****. Stick with TiAL or Turbosmart
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Basically.
In a cycle test eBay gates failed first, precision not long after, and the TiAL and Turbosmart gates both lasted so long they just stopped the test before they failed lol. I don't remember what number they stopped at but it was a lot.
In a cycle test eBay gates failed first, precision not long after, and the TiAL and Turbosmart gates both lasted so long they just stopped the test before they failed lol. I don't remember what number they stopped at but it was a lot.
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