xiLLtegRax

hello i have 98 integra ls/ stock internals with greddy kit on it.... im trying to get rid of the blue box and upgrade to hondata s200 or 300.... the problem im having is that i duno which one to get.... after the turbo im going for a swap and going to track the car alot.... so should i get s300 because of datalogging or is s200 with boost option good enough???? also do i have to get wideband for tuning????

0mtber

iTrader: (2)

The price difference between s200b and s300 is minimal.
Go with the s300 system & be happy

It is recommended that you run a wideband :-)
If you can't afford one, your dyno tuner maybe able to provide you with one during tuning.

xiLLtegRax

also i found hondata s300 with wideband combo on ebay... think its reliable or worth it??? anyone get them from ebay??? heres the link http://motors.search.ebay.com/...mZR40

Turbo-charged

s300 all the way. if i never had to use another s100/200 ever again it wouldnt hurt my feelings. not to mention s300 offers a lot more


i see your in MD. we are an authorized hondata dealer/tuner..... give us a call tomarrow and we can see if we can work out a package deal on the unit and tuning.

we use an FJO wideband for tuning on the dyno

JDM Roc

no personal experience with innovate widebands but i have read and hear pretty bad things about them.

Turbo-charged

ive had horrible experiances with innovative widebands...however one of my friends that uses our dyno all the time to tune domestic cars loves them.


bang for the buck that cant be beat is the NGK wideband.

xiLLtegRax

what is so good about the s300??? i know it has dataloggin and stuff but you can get datalog from good wideband.... what else is so much better???

Turbo-charged

antilag, NO CHIP BURNING, on board dattalogging (of every single sensor, not just "wideband dattalogging", usb connection, tempature based fuel and ignition parameters, gear based ignition and fuel corrections, individual cylinder fuel corrections, boost controll by gear, set timing feature, etc etc etc, extra inputs and outputs.......the list goes on and on

Kobal

Great topic. I'm planning on turbo-ing my gsr next year, so I suppose I'll have to find a competent hondata tuner in flo-ri-da before I do. Now I wish I was in maryland.

RACEPAK

i love my innovate wideband

SpoolnG2

Hondata actually recomends PLX devices since they have a wideband and a narrowband output. They can be used as your regular o2 sensor and for datalogging/wideband readings.

xiLLtegRax

hows the plx m300??? i heard bad news about the innovate widebands and aems.... heard plx is pretty nice..

Turbo-charged

ive seen plx's that didnt work straight out of the box.

fjo and ngk are the only 2 ive used that are worth spending money on. well you have motec too but i dont have that kinda money haha

SpoolnG2

i used an m300 on my last car and i never had one problem with it. I'd recomend them. I'm gonna try another one out soon too. The dm5-afr combo from PLX.

laziebun

s300 all the way dude......and the s200 also has the blue box for your info

xiLLtegRax

do i really need a wideband??? i called some tuning places and told me i dont even need the wideband.... and told me to get s100 with boost options if i want to save money but i told him im going to be trackin the car alot later on and s300 would be a help and also trying to learn how to tune on my own...... do i really need a wideband though???

xiLLtegRax

also any buy hondata s300 and wideband together from ebay???
heres the link....
http://motors.search.ebay.com/...mZR40

jarvis199

whoever tunes the car needs a wideband... i cant believe some of the people that call themselves tunars!

xiLLtegRax

i duno but this is the famous inlinepro we are talking about.....

xiLLtegRax

also any buy hondata s300 and wideband together from ebay???
heres the link....
http://motors.search.ebay.com/...mZR40

SOHCD16y8

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Im guess they meant that they would provide there own.

xiLLtegRax

yea im pretty sure thats what they meant.... anyways.... so no one has bought a kit from ebay??? http://motors.search.ebay.com/...mZR40
and also i need to change my ecu to obd 1.... but can i use the p28 instead of obd ls ecu???? because i will be getting gsr swap later on and wondering if i can use that instead....


Modified by xiLLtegRax at 9:16 PM 12/18/2007

Turbo-charged

yes you can use a p28

xiLLtegRax

how weired.... then wtf is the point of getting p75 instead of 28 lol

0mtber

iTrader: (2)

Why would you buy a hondata product on ebay ?
Authorized dealers are not supposed to sell hondata products on ebay per the contract they are in.

So what are you going to do when you have a problem you don't have technical support ? Its not worth saving a few bucks when it comes to such a large investment.