Gmedalion

ok here is the question. I am planning a total drag car in my EK. What engine combo to use....CRVTEC or b18c1?? Money is not really a issue, but I already have a b20b and a b16a2 head so leaning that way. This will be totally profesionally built and tuned. This will be turbocharged and hopefully running somewhere close to 550 hp. What do u guys think and what will i have to do?

DLB1994

ill just get a h22 for a drag car

bigTom

a b18c5 would do the least for your money... why get one when ur gonna rip it apart anyway? ur basically wasting your money

paulzy

iTrader: (1)

just get a b18c1...

VaporTrail

and resleeve it to 85mm, big time torque. There's little point in spending the extra money for a B18c5 when you're going to tear out just about all the differences between it and a B18c1

Gmedalion

the b20b is already 84mm and itz a 2.0. Don't u guys think that's better?

VaporTrail

I personally prefer the GSR block resleeved and resized to 84mm. It would be cheaper and nicer, as you would still have the better crank, factory crank girdle, piston oil squirters, and better rod ratio. You can modify the B20 to do all these things, but its going to cost you a lot more. Just my preference.

Turbohatch

go cr-vtec type r head 180 shot nos

DLB1994

why would u waste your money on a small 1.8 or 2.0 u get an and it will be a lot faster to get a h23 with a h22 head please look at the fastest front wheel drive Honda its a h23/h22 its not a b18 or a b20 u guy must never felt the power of a h22 in a small car

Gmedalion

DLB1994 H23 with a H22 head is good but look at Kubo, Tran, Callos, Rado, etc. who use B series engine. B series engines is just as good as a H series. Plus the H series caple tranny is kinda weak.

Gmedalion

VaporTrail: I have the b17 crank already and can get the block girdle just need someone to install the piston oil squirters but i dunno even if i need that since itz a stright drag car. With the b17 crank i will have a very good rod ratio close to 1.75

DLB1994

h22 dont have a cable tranny and look steph papadakis there not faster then him with a h22 680hp and the fastest all motor honda crx h22 the people u name is fast but not the fastest look a round the fastest honda have h22 or h23/h22

Gmedalion

L'Natural runs a cable tranny and has had problems with it on his H22 (Honda Tuning current issue) and Steph runs a X-trac tranny that was made for AWD but disabled the rear to keep it FWD. Kubo is the fastest unibody. Steph runs tube frame. Skunk 2 was using a B18 and got into 10's first before they retired that car.

b18bturbo

lisa is not the fastest unibody anymore actually the fastest would be chrstian rado. he ran 8.911 in san antonio event. Not a single unibody car has gone that fast as of yet,. Only difference that makes rado illegal in quick class is that he runs alchohol and alot more boost. The 8.911 pass was on a gary kubo back up b16a motor.

DLB1994

Honda never made a cable tranny to fit a h22,h23,f22,f23 and there all interchangeable there all hydraulic

Gmedalion

Thanks for the update B18bturbo

paulzy

iTrader: (1)

isn't christian rado's integra considered tube frame? I remember the back half was...wasn't it?

BoM

rado is one coolcat, i met him at HIN once and he signed a poster with his time....can't wait til he gets his celica...he says he'll get to the 7's and 6's before the NSX but i dont' know adams driving really well now

Hispeed

For the record...
Chris Rado, is NOT considered a UNIBODY.... he runs in modified/outlaw class. He has a tubed front end. So Lisa Kubo is still the world's fastest unibody!

b18bturbo

rado car is actually considered a unibody still. It not fully tube frame. Although he runs the outlaw class he is forced to do so due to his method of fuel. They will not allow anyone running alchol to be in the same class as guys running c16 and other types of gas.

drift

Papadakis doesnt use an XTrac tranny. If he did, the he'd be running 6 speeds of reverse. The Apex'i Drag Integra uses the XTrac setup, but had to modify the motor to spin clockwise to do it.

drift

the 1990-1997 accords all had F22's and all were cable trannies. the H22A never had a cable tranny. you're HALF right.

drift

personally, i say go H22 since it's gonna be an all out drag car. if you still want a B series motor, why do VTEC? you wont need the economy lobes on a VTEC cam anyways. go CRV B20 and mate it up with a Crower stroker kit... you'll retain the 84mm bore, but increase stroke... this should bump you up to about 2.3 litres of displacement, then add turbo. should be similar to an H23 in power due to displacement, altho rod/stroke ratio may prevent insanely high rpm's.

Gmedalion

If you've noticed that the engine is longitudinally mounted instead of transversely mounted in Papadakis's new civic coupe, he still retains its front-wheel drive status with a "tee" shaped X-Trac gearbox. This particular gearbox was intended for all-wheel drive applications but Papadakis is not using the rear output, keeping the car front-drive only.

DLB1994

there are not cable trannies i got a 1994 accord with built h23 turbo with a 1996 f22 tranny for the long gears and its not cable there no cable trannies with a f or h block trust me i do swaps for people all the time thats my job