Touge Tuning

After doing alot of reading, researching and talking to a few people I think I have finally figured out my complete engine and turbo setup. I am planning on running a stock B18B1 engine, tranny etc for now but I would like to sleeve it down the road and maybe add some stronger rods, pistons and new cams down the road.

So here is the setup, if you feel like I should change something or add something I would appreciate the help. My goal is anywhere between 240-300whp and alot of torque.

-Garrett T3/To4e 57 trim with a .48ar
-OneFab Type One manifold
-3" downpipe with a full 3" exhaust (resonator, cat and muffler)
-525cc saturated injectors with a walboro in-tank fuel pump
-Precision 350hp intercooler (AS1021)
-TiAL 38mm wastegate
-TiAL 50mm BOV
-Turbosmart manual boost controller
-Hondata s200b

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any suggestions guys?

FOrSfEd

Everything sounds good, but I would just go ahead and get the 600hp intercooler since you will be building the motor down the road and plus that intercooler looks kinda dumb imo on a car.

Touge Tuning

why do you say it looks dumb? I was considering going with a bigger intercooler but arent there drawbacks like pressure loss or something along those lines? Is there any 450-500hp intercoolers that are fairly inexpensive like the precision?

Sohc Driver

I say go for a .63ar...that is what I am running. The 48ar will be perfectly fine...quicker spool, but at the sacrifice of topend. Trust me the lag is not bad at all if you decide to go for the .63ar. On 5psi I start spooling around 2800-3000rpm and I hit full boost right at about 3800rpm. I am also running a 2.5inch dp...so your spool up should be better than mine since your going with a 3inch dp.

Khoi

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what would be the disadvantages of going with a .63ar? I dont really care for top end power, i really just wanna have alot of low end torque that stays on till about 6K.

How much of a difference do you think the EL manifold and 3"DP will make as far as comparing to your power?

Sohc Driver

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The disadvantages of going for the .63ar would be the slightly slower spoolup time.

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Should notice a slight difference in spool up time. As far as power goes, its hard to say....in theory you should make more power due to the superior manifold and dp over mine, but anything can happen. The power you make will be determined by how conservative or aggressive the tune is.

Khoi

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Would I gain any power down low with the .48ar or would I just spool quicker giving me more low end power but less high end torque. I was under the impression that B18B's dont make good power in the upper rpm range so im not sure if its worth it to try and gain up there when it'll drop off anyways.

Looking at what you have on your car its almost identical to what im gonna have minus the DP and manifold. Having the bigger DP and the EL manifold I figure will give me a bit more HP and torque or atleast thats what my hopes are. I am hoping at 10psi I can make 220+torque and when i turn it up to around 14 or 15psi that i can make over 250 torque. Dont know how realistic that goal is but from what ive been reading it should be attainable.

BTW your car looks awesome, 6th gen coupes are the ****. How do you like your fiber images hood?

lowboost

b18's spin fairly fast so in your case i would seriously consider the .63 because you should be able to keep it spooled anyway and lag really isn't that big of a deal. and it would make sense to me that you would want to boost that high end power because it is weaker up there, if that is really the case, im no B18 expert.

on the other hand, do you want a drag monster or a quick and nimble street machine? if you want the former, go .63, the latter, go .48

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im thinking ill start with the .48 and if I find im not making the power i want to I could probably easily swap the housing to a .63

Bailhatch

Assuming you get a stage 3 wheel, you'll like the .48 a/r turbine housing for the type of power you want. I just put the same turbo on a GSR and it is awesome for the street. I think we were getting 10psi around 4k after adding a little timing in the boost transition and it really doesn't fall off much up top.

Your right, you can swap out housings very easily if you do want more top end and slower spool later.

Honda-Pilot

Run colder plugs and gap them. "NGK Plugs"

Touge Tuning

Yup its gonna have a stage 3 wheel with the .48ar. How much power did you put down on your GSR with that turbo? I am glad to hear it makes power nicely through the rpm range.

As for the plugs I was thinking of running NGK's one step colder than stock, does that sound right?

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Which tranny would you guys choose for street and freeway driving? I have a chance to get an LS engine with GSR tranny but i was thinking the LS tranny would be better on the street and freeway because of the "longer" gears?

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Bailhatch

you definatly want the gsr tranny. it's just plain faster with shorter gears.

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As for the plugs I was thinking of running NGK's one step colder than stock, does that sound right?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not my car, I built a turbo kit for it thats all. I don't know the HP, I street tuned it with a wideband. It rips pretty good but I'm so used to a 600lb lighter car so my but dyno isn't calibrated very well for tegs. I would guess 240-260 based on how it did on the highway against my friends turbo 240sx that makes some nasty Tq.

NGK BKR7E will treat you right for $10 or so.

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I guess I will go with the GSR tranny then and maybe swap in the LS 5th gear for good highway rpms. Does $1800CDN sound good for a 99LS motor with a 97 GSR tranny, includes axles, ecu and a almost everthing else cept the shift linkage and other stuff i need for the auto to manual conversion + swap.

I think I will be more than happy with teh .48ar and when i wanna upgrade i can always sell the turbo or swap the housings. I am hoping to put down around 240-250whp with 10psi and hopefully close to 300 at 15 psi.

Thanks for the part number on the plugs, i was reading a thread about em and couldnt figure out which would be the right ones.

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How big should i run my charge piping?

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Bailhatch

2" to IC and 2.5" to TB works fine for what you want.

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Any advantages using 2.5" for all the piping?

How does this look so far? Please add anything you think im missing. Also what are a good company for cam gears if there are any better than others? I was thinking of just using GE cam gears but let me know.

T3/T4oe 57Trim .48AR
-Onefab Type One Manifold, OneFab 3" downpipe and dumptube
-Kteller Exhaust, 3" piping, 14" or 22"long 3" resonator, 3"high-flow cat
-ApexI Turbo N1 muffler (Black)
-RC 440cc or 550cc injectors with clips and walboro fuel pump
-Precision 350hp Intercooler (AS 1021)
-TiAL 38mm WasteGate (Black)
-TiAL Blow-off Valve (Black)
-Turbosmart Boost Controller (FG-GBCV-IC) (Black)
-Hondata s200b with boost
-Golden Eagle Vacuum Manifold (Black)
-NGK BKR7E

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Nemore input guys?