phaphon

I plan on builing a motor not sure of what block to use.I plan on making atleast 300whp, but knowing me i always want more so i know for a fact i will be wanting 500 whp not to long from now. my last set up was lsv turbo.it was a stock rebuild with arp rod bolts and head studs.The sleeves gave up on me while i was on my way to go finish my dyno tune.It was pulled of the dyno because oil pressure drop'd and made 246whp with no vtec. So this time i'm planning to get a b20 block. Also do plan on getting forged pistons and rods.Not sure on what to good and any recommendations would be nice and a reason for why you like the set up.So the question is should i sleeve? or just get a block guard? also since i plan on making this much power should i get a bigger turbo and injectors ? my turbo is a turbonetics 57 /63ar, injectors are 750cc rc injectors

lilpat93accord

IMO, you should sleeve the block, but instead of going with the B20 block, you should pick up a LS block and send it out to Laskey Racing to get sleeved. I would go with a bigger turbo, you should get a Garrett GT30R, the spool would be great and you will love it, it can also reach your goal of 500hp, go with the .82 a/r. Also, sell the 750's and just pick up a set of ID 1000's and you should be good. What are you gonna use to tune with?

sanman000719

and if you dont wanna spend all that on id's some rc's will be awsome for you as well man

4g hatch

i would just tow it to the dyno tune this time...even on a half tune i would not drive it around boosting...do you think thats why your sleeves gave out...the ls sleeves can usally take alot if the tune is spot on

phaphon

yea im hoping to not spend more then about 3000 give or take. First i will be only shooting for 300-400 whp.I plan on tuning with hondata if it fits in the budget.

phaphon

maybe and this ls block has seen alot of abuse.It has also overheated pretty bad a couple of times

0Golden Eagle

Laskey or us here at G.E. would be your best choice. I will pm you prices
''Coast to coast G.E. boosts the most''

TheShodan

iTrader: (14)

Golden Eagle. Same block for 10 years here!!!!

rev-speed

if u don t sleeve with golden eagle don t take your block there to o-ring

phaphon

sorry if this sounds like a noob question but what do you guys mean by o-ring?

sanman000719

copper o ring placed down before you set the head allows for better sealing when used with higher boosted cars.

phaphon

oh ok thanks

phaphon

where should i take it to o-ring?

phaphon

another question is that golden eagle is charging me 220 for final honing? is that just another way of saying they're gonna charge me 220 for honing my block? cause if so i can just buy a honing kit and hone it myself right?

West Werks

Does that include boring? I imagine it does.

I hope so, because you should not be paying more then $25 a cylinder for honing.

And no, do not hone it yourself.

Here you go: http://www.bensonsmachine.com/

phaphon

oh so honing it myself would be out of the question? is it cause its not a stock sleeve and they did not mention anything about boring

rev-speed

just have it sleeve
then have a local shop do the bore and final hone
average in fresno $120 bore and hone

Darton

There are other options for sleeving you can look into...

rev-speed

let me guess
like darton lol.......
what do u guys charge to step deck and o ring.......

AllShowNoGo727

iTrader: (1)

Golden Eagle sleeves all day 84mm LS block FTW!

wantboost

iTrader: (2)

My last bloc had Darton MID sleeves... Plus after getting first hand 1 on 1 time with the Darton guys @ SEMA last year, they are my only stop for sleeving.. I still have lots of love for Laskey Racing though.

phaphon

ok cool so how about the O-ring? since you said not to do it at golden eagle

luvmihatch

iTrader: (3)

there are a few brands out there that sleeve and sleeve well.

Darton

Laskey

Golden eagle

JG

Aebs

dart

and the list goes on.

I have used darton, and laskey sleeved blocks and never had an issue.

as for o rings its really up to u and when you talk to your machine shop and what they say. i dont think its a bad thing. its better sealant on your motor and its just that one more step of protection.

and the 225 for the hone sounds like thats there price for a bore deck and hone. which u will 100 percent need lol.

Glove

G.E raised their prices significantly since last year, they used to be the main choice because of their cheap costs, but now they cost just as much as any other sleeving company.

So its pretty much do your research and pick which company you think does the best job at sleeving, and go with them.

They all pretty much cost the same.

0Golden Eagle

220 includes step deck, bore, final hone. When you get the block sleeved. And by the way we will work with you on each block to fit your needs. ''Coast to coast G.E. lets you boost the most''
''Let us lift you up on our wings''
CHOOSING THE RIGHT ENGINE SLEEVE SHOP is one of the most important things you can do when building a performance engine. While some builders only think about profit, there are those that rely on the proven performance engine building methods that have kept them in business over the years. Here at Golden Eagle Mfg., we offer the finest engine sleeving on the market. Where others skimp, we simply do what it takes to make the most horse power and provide our customers with the reliability they deserve. We use nothing but the finest engine building techniques and products to supply to our customers. Every engine is a work of art, combining tolerances and engineering with proven performance techniques that will keep you one step ahead of the competition.

Every engine is painstakingly measured with Mitutoyo micrometers and bore dial gauges so there is a 100% certainty that the tolerances are right where we, and you, want them. No Plastigauge used here.

All of our engine work has a proven performance background and can custom tailor to your specific needs.Whether you crave a high revving motor, or a torque monster, we can sleeve it!