meatball01

im going to put a jackson supercharger on my car soon. i am planing on getting a jdm computer also to help it run better. do any of you have suggestions on anything that will make it run better? i have a 96 ls auto. thanx for any help

Nine

I think an auto to manual conversion should be ur first move.. and although I am a big JRSC advocate, you might think about going turbo instead. JR uses the smaller blower in the LS models and the gains do not justify the price. Thats just my .02 though.

meatball01

i was lookin into the tranny swap and it just didnt seem worth it to me. and the reason why im goin with the super charger is cus i have a friend who can get me one for 1k. thanx 4 the help though.

96IntegraRS

Search "JRSC LS" - I am also a big supporter of the JRSC -but- with the auto tranny you are in for a fight... It's easy to say "just swap trannies" but it this case it's totally true. My car makes good HP with the manual transmission, but with the auto and the extra weight, it will be tough to make fast.

Also - don't bother with a chip... leave the ECU stock, the only thing a chip will do is raise the rev limiter (which on an auto is silly) and remap the fuel in places the supercharger doesn't need it. If you come across some wonder chip that also adjusts auto shift points, this may help, but your money is better spent elsewhere.


[Modified by 96IntegraRS, 8:53 AM 3/30/2003]

92sleepR

I agree with the above posts. Keep the stock ECU. Its just fine at 6 PSI. If you can get the blower for 1K go for it although it would be better with the M62. Also, like everyone else has pointed out, the auto tranny is your weakest link. If you can find a GSR transmission and can do all the work at one time it would make the supercharger installation a LOT easier to put it on while the engine is out of the car. Having done a few

Mike

B_1_8_hatch

is there anything wrong with having a chipped ecu with a JRSC in a LS? i'm going to be supercharged pretty soon and i have a chipped ecu. my chipped ecu raises the rev limiter and i think thats all it does. i think it also has no governor, but i will never be going that fast to find out.

96IntegraRS

The M45 and the M62 are vitrually identical on a B18B1. The problem isn't the M45 (yes, which does heat up faster) but the way the head flows. If you have the 45 or the 62, with no head work, the results are pretty much the same (LS Avenger, who's car was wrecked had this setup - M62 - at 10psi, mine at 9psi, they ran dead even); where the 62 becomes useful is when you have had some head work done to your motor. Then the increased CFM of air can be "pushed" through the motor more efficiently, creating higher gains.

I never intended to do any internal work - and have a 45, which I'm happy with. If you have a 62, that's great, but you wont see any more gains unless the flow characteristics of the B18B1 are improved.

Back on topic of this post - a blower for $1000 is a good deal anyway and fun to play with, so slap it on and have fun.

96IntegraRS

What kind of chip is it? As we know, chips do a couple basic things:

Raise rev limiter (a good way to smoke your motor if it's not built)
Changes fuel maps (which can screw with the JRSC; a SAFC/VAFC is the way to go)
Gets rid of limiter (not an issue in an LS/RS, only JDM if I remember correctly)

So - bottom line, as long as it doesn't screw with the fuel, you're in good shape.

My list of necessary things with a starter JRSC:
BTC (retards timing vs. boost; gets rid of detonation)
MAP Mod (eliminates stupid Air Temp relay, much smoother boost response)
Walbro 342 fuel pump (high flow)
VAFC/SAFC - this will do wonders for tuning - I freed up 10 HP -

96IntegraRS

I don't understand the statement "gains don't justify price" of the M45...
(not flaming you but trying to illustrate a point, below assuming 40% power gain - 6psi -, manual transmission, best case tuning scenario) :

RS/LS stock HP (crank) 142; 123 WHP
GSR stock HP (crank) 170; 148 WHP

RS/LS JRSC HP (crank) 198; 172 WHP w/ M45
GSR stock HP (crank) 238; 207 WHP w/ M62

The bottom line here is that the RS/LS is about 30 HP down from the GSR anyway - before you do anything to it. So, the gains made are equivalent to the GSR in that you have increased power by 40% (which JRSC claims and is actually true, wow...)

So I guess if you have an RS/LS, you're down from the beginning. But we already knew that.

Also, check out Eaton's webpage and their delta T (heat transfer) graphs... the M45 is slightly BETTER with regard to thermal efficiency at 14,000 RPM!!!

fredtoast

$1K for a jrsc is a great deal IF it is still in good shape. OPen it up and check out the blades to see if the are worn or chipped.

I don't think I would spend the money on a chip, but you will need the BTC and MAP controller. Keep an eye on the Forced Induction Classifieds here and also on the Forced Induction Integra forum on Hostboard.com. Yoshould be able to find them pretty cheap.

Good luck, and let us know how it turns out.

Spunkster

I have the map controler, and BTC for sale if you want them, $300 for both.

Or you can get a Hondata system which will allow you to get the car fully tuned.