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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 01:03 AM
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my future plans are to go turbo on this ls/vtec im ganna get some time. i want to know if i stroke it with the crower kit to 84mm 92mm 2.04L and sleeve it of course will this be good or bad and will it kill my gas milage. o and its ganna be a daily driver. the reason why i thought of this is cause when i go turbo i want my TQ to be up there next to the HP #s and it just sounds like it could be reliable. the one thing that might make this project to say now is keeping the stock gsr games, you think? thanks for the help.
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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 03:09 AM
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gsr games eh? j/k I know you meant cams. Anyway, it's going to cost a pretty penny to make an LS vtec a 2.0, my advice, just choose the right turbo that will give you instant torque at relatively low rpms. I'd buy a ball bearing turbo before I stroked the motor.
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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 06:53 AM
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BWAHAAHAHAHA

I love the title of this thread

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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 07:03 AM
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if you simply bore it out to 84mm you will not be dissapointed.
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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 07:14 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Da K00l Aid Mayun &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">BWAHAAHAHAHA

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Same here. But seriously, Up the displacement, build the motor correctly and get a BB turbo Big torque and good boost response, best of both worlds.
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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 07:29 AM
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your better of with a stroked 81mm motor than you are with a nonstroked 84mm
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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 08:09 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by z6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">your better of with a stroked 81mm motor than you are with a nonstroked 84mm</TD></TR></TABLE>

That I would agree with. I've found literally on about 5 different turbos a variance of only 20ft/lbs on 81mm vs 84mm on the bore alone, but about 60ft/lbs on the stroke. It all really depends on what you're trying to do. Torque is good, power is good... Gotta find a nice balance..
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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 08:51 AM
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A stroker kit will cost up more than going over bore, and the gains will be similar between the two. just my $.2
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 09:10 PM
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so you guys are saying ill be happy with just have it bored. cause i hear that just boring it out will not give you the numbers you would want from it being stroked. ive been researching about how to keeping it balanced and stuff but huh its just driving me crazy. i know its going to cost a lot, i just thout that stroking it would be the answer to finding TQ.
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 09:39 PM
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honestly, you shouldnt build the bottom end without touching the head. i say get some cams and bore the sucker. no need for a stroker kit, plus, stroke + bore + turbo = less reliability. now before someone cries to me, yes, it can be done. its just more dangerous than, cams + bore + turbo.

mildly built bottom end and mildy built head &gt; fully built bottom end and stock head.

just my 2 cents
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 09:43 PM
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Just remember that stroking a motor shortens it's life. Longer stroke = more stress on the rods. I personally hate stroked motors. I overbore everything.
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 09:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EnzoSpeed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just remember that stroking a motor shortens it's life. Longer stroke = more stress on the rods. I personally hate stroked motors. I overbore everything.</TD></TR></TABLE>
exactly what i was talking about.

i hate stroked motors as well, overbore is much safer and does the same job.
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 09:51 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by knockout &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> overbore is much safer and does the same job.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well, almost . Longer stroke makes more torque and overbore makes more hp. But who cares - hondas aren't about torque anyway .
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 07:38 PM
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true true. so its just better off going overbored+turbo? just off the recored, what motor do you perfer and think is the most reliable motor+turbo.
LS/V turbo
GSR turbo
both having it sleeved and bored to 2.0 and with a good tune.
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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 09:44 PM
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I have a GSR bored to 84mm and sleeved that I drive every day and I love it
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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 09:08 AM
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GSR bored and sleeved 82mm w/ 95mm stroke and love the tq.
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 03:12 PM
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95mm stroke? how did you get that. im guessing of corse from a stroker kit but thats with a turbo or just n/a?
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 03:26 PM
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Why are Honda owners so obsessed with torque? It won't do you any good on the street because you won't be able to put it to the ground! Get a RWD car with fatty tires if you want a lot of torque. Hondas are all top end.
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 03:50 PM
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stroke it but go with a 81 bore . the bttm end is drastically diffirent. but give your self some room for future rebuilds. my stroked 85 mm engine did i think 11.77 on three good cylinders. but thats it for that block because of detination so i wish i would have gone smaller on the bore. the power comes on so much faster
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 04:56 PM
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also, another thing to think about is that a larger faced piston as well as a larger (inner diameter) bore will be able to dissapate heat more. That's definately something to consider since you'll be turboing this car as well.
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 05:06 PM
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if u have the choice i would go with a GSR, mainly becuase the rod ratio is less stress on the sleeves/rods and it comes stock with a main cap girdle.

scratch that.If ur going to stroke it, i dont think it matters.
stroke it hard.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 06:01 PM
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Why does beerbong always have something negative to say? Hey beer bong, when you have to drop 2 gears to get power on your little D motor, I'll be walking away in 4th.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 06:13 PM
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strokers are awsome.. especially in the v8 world..

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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 09:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by beerbongskickass &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why are Honda owners so obsessed with torque? It won't do you any good on the street because you won't be able to put it to the ground! Get a RWD car with fatty tires if you want a lot of torque. Hondas are all top end.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i dont get it. why are you questioning my thread when you have instent TQ on your Dmotor. i know its not your fault just dont act like that when somone one wants somthing different then others. and im planning to get a evo 9 when i come back from boot camp btw. AWD. ha.

anyways um...ya with the gsr motor i was thinking about it. and it would save me a lot of money and will make me happy just to get it borded to .5 for good piston to wall clearence and i guess keeping the stroke stock cause of the reliability from the rod/stroke ratio. or on the other hand you think with it sleeved and doing it with stock stoke with a 85mm bore be good for reliebility also with im guessing the psi would be street: 11psi, track: 20psi. if i go that rout then you think i would have to get an aftermarket oilpump?
this thread is about making it reliable for street and track.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 10:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sc4dr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why does beerbong always have something negative to say?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm guessing it's because this thread is packed with retards.
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