I have heard a couple of things about the Forged Eagle Roda, but am no sure on the facts.

What is the strength of an Eagle forged rod ? I have heard one or two people say they will not stand up to more than 15psi of boost on average (I'm sure it would depend on the turbo) but then I have also seen that they will handles up to 600 Hp as measured at the crank.

Which one, if any is true ?

 

My brother's civic ran 22~26PSI consistantly, he blew the motor, the head was lifted off the block while running a camaro. It also busted the stock sleeves open and broke off pieces of the piston BUT the eagle rods stood firm, no problems there. I am running Crowers though because I heard the same things U heard, but I am not sure if the differences in quality actually justify the differences in price.

 

Yeah, just wondering if I should switch to Pauter or Crower before assembly, they are hella expensive too ! Almost double the price of the Eagles I would eventually like to boost up to 18 psi or so, but not at the cost of a hole in the block if the rods can't take it.

 

there was a pink CRX in the "import racer" magazine a while back. He was running deep into the 10's and making around 400-500 horses(can't remember). They were using eagle rods in the motor.

Just for reference, the CRX was from Hawaii

 

Too lazy to check right now, but does Eagle only make 1 type of rod for the B series or do they make different rods w/ diff specs ?

 

to my knowledge, it's only one style

 

people it is all in the tuning i have stock rods pushing 334hp on a ls.

 

Eagle rods will support up to 600HP.

 

holy ****! What kind of setup do you have for tuning?

 

thast's what I'm saying

 

There are different types of Rod designs. I-beam, H-beam, and X-beam. Crower is I-beam, endyn/eagle are H-Beam. Crower also has an H-beam design known as the econo billet. I have read articles stating one design is better then the other, I chose to go with the Steel billet I-beam design by crower. I did an engineering paper on this last semester and there are pro's and con's to each design. I wish i could find the paper, but i know the manufacturing processes for eagle and crower are similar. However, crower is known to be a stronger rod due to the I-beam design, it allows the rod to withstand greater pressure levels which mean more horsepower. Eagles are known to be good for engines exceeding 500+hp, crower is known for 800+. It is all a matter of preference really. One thing that should really answer your question as to which rod to purchase is the fact that for every one pair of crower steel billet rods you can purchase 2 sets of eagle/endyne rods. You get what you pay for, the choice is up to you. www.crower.com and www.theoldone.com for more info.

 

There are a few shops in the US making 700 HP out of b series motor on Eagle rods...

I'm not gunna say who though cough9coughsecondcoughcarscough.... Excuse me!

 

there are about as many 9 second hondas as there are violent crimes....

 

sounds like someones car is pushing 700hp, we all wanna see some pictures!!


[Modified by GudeH23a, 4:20 AM 4/12/2002]

 

Pankl, an Austrian company is aking rods for the Formula one and what I know they are using the H design.

It is not the hp in first place which is bad for the rod, it is the rev. The centrefugal force is sooo high that weak rods break.

H design is also used in buildings to carrier the roof and floors. Sorry I don´t know how to explain this in an other way.

check this out! http://www.pankl.com

 

isnt CARILLO the best rods ?? how much do they cost for honda applications ?

 

From what I remember the H beam construction is as strong as the I beam on the power stroke but stronger on the exhaust stroke. Most rods fail on the exhaust stroke in high rpm motors. (Keeping in mind that the rod bolts dont fail first.)

 

I just heard if you use eagle rods.. you better have your block sleeved because the eagle rods will notch your bottom end. And that you can only use the #2 bearing for all four rods because that's the only that will clear. Just what i heard though.

 

What do you mean 'notch' the bottom end ?

Has anyone else heard of this ?

 

carillos look just liek eagles...

as for notching the block, that has nothing to do with the sleeeves I think

 

BS.

 

heh heh...

 

Man i once ran 20psi of boost on a completely stock b16 .Its only after i hit a poorly tuned 75shot of laughing gas did my block look like the 12th hole at the golf course. Anyway them blocks are strong once the tunning is good.

"could you get me a coke thanks"

 

Yea you have to notch the block for a friggin d-series with eagle rods.. or atleast you used to.. who the hell uses d-series anyway?!

 

fuel 440cc injectors,holley in-tank,s-afc,s-itc,cartech regulator and dyno time

internally stock LS.