I think we can end it right there!

 

Damn just stop posting your retarded. All you did in this thread is confuse the poster at best

 

A great tuner can tune a ghetto *** setup. But a ghetto *** tuner cant tune a great setup.

As I stated before. just because you didnt see the numbers others have. It doesnt mean that it is false. phat00civic you need to get over yourself honestly. You are giving your opinion just like everyone else. Shhhhhhh

 

My opinion? 2 people post about hitting 250whp while the majority on any forum with proof of reliability are 200-210 whp. We are talking about reliability of power, not max power. Someone driving a few months or a year is not reliable, that is my opinion.

 

Imo the type of kit used is also going to have an effect on the power and reliability also. IE a equal length manifold is going to make quite a bit more power than a Log due to reversion and flow. A twinscroll setup will be even more forgiving.

For ***** and giggles I built a custom AC compatible Twinscroll kit for a 96ek and its 200K+ mile engine. I had a fully built block waiting to be transplanted so I boosted the stocker totally untuned, completely stock injectors and everything. Seemed to really like up to about 7 psi and due to the response of the twinscroll turbo it would hit 15psi in the blink of an eye, haha. Plans changed and I never swapped the built motor in and tuned it. 10K miles later I sold the car and the new owner drove it NA for about 6 months before he traded it, still ran great.

thats my cool story


I built an identical kit and it made an easy 230whp if i remember correctly, stock d15

 

The reason people bend rods are all over this post. They overrev, they don't tune them or don't tune correctly, or something freak happens (bad batch of gas) and that causes the rods to bend.

There are Kseries in the 6-700whp range stock block. Those rods aren't very big either, certainly not on par with Eagles (which people have bent at lower ranges).

If you want other facts, Epic tuning (a local tuning shop around here) had a 375whp stock block Z6 running and racing for at least 2 years. They finally bent all of the rods when the car was backed into while it was in gear at the track.

Point is, the rods are not the problem. It's that people just don't take the time to really worry too much about Dseries reliability. And like I said, most of them tune them with too much timing which will certainly aid in bending the rods. I'm sure people will battle with me on saying this, and if you don't feel comfortable pushing the engines over 250whp then don't. I'm just saying that IMO, they can be pushed into the 300whp range safely if you're tuning it right with a good setup.

Edit - The days that I made 210whp were over 4 years ago, back in the day when the amount of people hitting 400whp on the Dseries could be literally counted on one hand. It's old news, these engines can do more than what you think reliably.

 

^^^ thank you

he'll probably ask for "factual data" on epic tuning's civic so here's the threads

https://honda-tech.com/forums/forced-induction-16/stock-sohc-d16z6-gt30r-epic-turbo-kit-evans-tuned-375whp-1722429/
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showth...ht=epic+tuning
http://forums.evans-tuning.com/viewtopic.php?t=3788

 

haha this is was fun reading. All I could think about was "that guy". You know the one who turbos his car and makes it slower, runs a 15 still at 84.3 MPH, confuses his clutch slipping for tires getting no traction resulting in the 15 but his car "is fast as fu** when I can get traction" you know, "that guy".

 

You know, funny story about that car. Went out to a local meet with some friends, parked my car next to this black EF hatchback. Didn't think anything of it till I started looking at it, noticed the trans was a little... bigger than usual. Turns out, I was parked next to my one of my favorite SOHC builds of all time. Got to cruise with the guy all the way home too, weird seeing a rear diff on a Civic.