redline1219

Hey I was wondering what you all think about the MSD Digital 7 ignition. I bought my EM1 with it on there, made 450whp on 20lbs or so on pump gas. Ive talked to a few guys, they seem to think that it is more hassle than is worth since my Hondata S300 should be able to tune most of the features I need...

Im in the process of rebuilding and converting to E85 and hopefully shooting for over 500whp with a gt35r; wont the stock Honda ignition system handle that? Its not a daily driver but will see the streets and track occasionally. Are there any real benefits that the MSD can offer that the stock ignition and S300 cant?? I would rather stick with the stock distributor and sell the MSD if it isnt gonna create any problems.

Thanks for all your input. No ****-talking and telling me I need to use the search button and research because I have; now Im asking for positive advise from people who have dealt with this situation before and know what theyre talking about...

sanman000719

people make upwards of 800 on stock ignitionwith the crane coil or th haltech im thinking man

i personally had alot of issues with the msd, and went to a pro14 box with the t1 trigger and its smooth

redline1219

Im thinking the same thing, sell the msd and just use the stock distributor. You think the coil is the weak link though huh?

sanman000719

umm no everyone on here knows it is lol its junk man they fizzle out faster than the steelers did

redline1219

HAHA. Are those aftermarket coils a stock replacement or do I have to run one of those janky external ones? I would rather it look as stock and clean as possible...

jdm inc

iTrader: (11)

i was currently on the digital 6 and my igniter went out so i just ditched it all and went with the M&W pro 10 kit from T1. No more issues since!

sanman000719

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smart man

you want a nice stable car that will last man ditcht he nice looking internal junk and get a high speeds track proven external one but its your choice homie

AlexDphoto

stock for 500hp

redline1219

Well Ill take the external coil if thats what works, its better than the stock one puking out on me :-/

redline1219

Looks like I'll be trading off the digital 7 ignition then... Anyone wanna trade??

Turbo-LS

iTrader: (4)

Running an external coil off the ignitor is just asking for stuck on side of road. you either keep it completely stock and gap down the plugs or run a coil and a box. You certainly dont need a 800 dollar digital 7 box. You can run a summit digital box with crane ps92n coil or a crane fireball box or mallory hifire box all with the crane coil. If you have money you can just get a m&w pro10 and crane ps92n coil and be done with it and have plenty of ignition for whatever you want to do with the car.

Stock ignition will work but aftermarket will give you better burn and more low/mid range torque

redline1219

Thanks for the input. I think I'll ditch the digital 7 and try one of the options you listed. Now I gotta figure out who will buy the MSD from me...

darkvader0

It's sad we have to include disclaimers like this now, but we do.

I have been running the stock ignition at 500hp for many years (E85 too for over 4 years now). Had to gap to 0.018" for anything over 22psi.

I used an MSD Blaster SS coil a long time ago. Even spent a long time fabricating a nice bracket for it. It crapped out and left me stuck on the side of the road. Only time Integra has ever broke down. Ripped that out and went back 100% stock. Been fine and no problems since.

redline1219

Yes it is sad but seriously true. I'm a dealer Honda tech so I'm by no means stupid, but i lack experience in the aftermarket an high end turbo builds. Most of the people on here who like to flame others constantly have no experience in the real world anyway lol they just sit on the computer in thier parents basement and talk **** to people to feel better about their poor pathetic lives (no one on this particular thread yet).

Thanks for all of you who do have real experience in this area and are kind enough to lend me a hand without shittalking. hopefully I can return the favor to a few of you since I do work at Honda, I have access to some pretty awesome resoueces and discounts the general public doesn't...

sanman000719

my builder runs a stock dizzy on a crane fire ball he has had it for years, and puts down right at 800hp out of his build there are many on here that ahs done the same thing as well.
if you can get the change togather man m&w pro 14 coupled with a t1 trigger and with coil on plug never look back

quickhondaz

I run NEPTUNE, will I be able to use the m&w pro 10 with this or will I have to change to something else?

redline1219

Ya I think Im going to try the stock ignition with the plugs gapped way down, and see how that works. The MSD is up for sale on Honda Marketplace; if I have problems with my coil, Ill see about converting to the trigger and COP. I dont really have the cash for that right now but when my build is finally done, it might become a priority real quick...

sanman000719

im not sure on that man i think it deoends on your ems with channles out

ide ask your tuner, or get ahold of one to ask

i know t1 is a huge help in answering ????'s

96 GSR-T

Over 500hp E85 completely stock ignition here, bkr7e's at .016-.018, had to gap them down once I got over 450hp. I will be going COP or Digi7 Prog on my new motor though.



Neptune is no different than any other OEM Based setup, the Pro-10 will work just fine, personally I prefer Neptune over Hondata anyway, especially the Demon Boards.

sanman000719

man cop is where its at

96 GSR-T

yea but that COP wont get me down the track any faster, that 7 box will lol

redline1219

Trade me **** for my digital 7!!

sanman000719

that 7 box will lol

hmmmm driving might lol

DelSolMarine

the best thing i have bought for my car period... is the m&w pro 10 kit with the crane coil... i am using neptune for engine management...

the pro 10 kit keeps everything plug and play as well the quality of the product is just incredible... from the box to the connectors to the wiring... sorry im drooling.

call t1 for best price and customer service

sanman000719

exactly man my msd was total crap 3 dizzy's and i was done with it

tuner said go with the m&w pro 14 with cop, and do a t1 trigger and your problems are solved and well yup they were