SSAutochrome's turbos and why they may be better! *LINK*
10-02-2005, 07:23 PM
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SSAutochrome's turbos and why they may be better! *LINK*
http://www.differentracing.com...drama/
it appears a chinese manufacturer is making knockoffs of XSpower turbos, which ssautchrome was selling....
now in the newer ssautchrome auctions, it appears that they don't sell the knock off xspowers anymore...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...86791
I'm assuming all of this, but it seems like thats the truth since...
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1097918
clearly shows what looks like to be a chinese xspower turbo.
it appears a chinese manufacturer is making knockoffs of XSpower turbos, which ssautchrome was selling....
now in the newer ssautchrome auctions, it appears that they don't sell the knock off xspowers anymore...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...86791
I'm assuming all of this, but it seems like thats the truth since...
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1097918
clearly shows what looks like to be a chinese xspower turbo.
10-03-2005, 09:14 AM
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No. SSAC Has sold Stone Mountain turbos for years.
The search might not bring it up anymore, but I had a Stone Mountain TD05 that I bought from SSAC. When I attempted to thread in the studs on the turbine housing, I broke the casting into three pieces. The casting was terrible, which also extended to the compressor housing, the wheels, and the CHRA itself. Most turbos have a vacuum cast turbine wheel, either made out of steel or inconel. This one was made of cast iron. zzzzzzWWwweeeeeeeeee clatter clatter clatter.
If you don't beleive me, just look at the auction that you provided. Look at how bad the casting shift is on the compressor outlet!!!
Disclaimer: I still use SSAC Wastegates, V-bands and flanges
The search might not bring it up anymore, but I had a Stone Mountain TD05 that I bought from SSAC. When I attempted to thread in the studs on the turbine housing, I broke the casting into three pieces. The casting was terrible, which also extended to the compressor housing, the wheels, and the CHRA itself. Most turbos have a vacuum cast turbine wheel, either made out of steel or inconel. This one was made of cast iron. zzzzzzWWwweeeeeeeeee clatter clatter clatter.
If you don't beleive me, just look at the auction that you provided. Look at how bad the casting shift is on the compressor outlet!!!
Disclaimer: I still use SSAC Wastegates, V-bands and flanges
10-03-2005, 09:22 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by beepy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No. SSAC Has sold Stone Mountain turbos for years.
The search might not bring it up anymore, but I had a Stone Mountain TD05 that I bought from SSAC. When I attempted to thread in the studs on the turbine housing, I broke the casting into three pieces. The casting was terrible, which also extended to the compressor housing, the wheels, and the CHRA itself. Most turbos have a vacuum cast turbine wheel, either made out of steel or inconel. This one was made of cast iron. zzzzzzWWwweeeeeeeeee clatter clatter clatter.
If you don't beleive me, just look at the auction that you provided. Look at how bad the casting shift is on the compressor outlet!!!
Disclaimer: I still use SSAC Wastegates, V-bands and flanges </TD></TR></TABLE>
did your compressor housing have that flat area with the serial no. stamped??
i'm just wondering... cuz thats one of the main differences between the turbos
The search might not bring it up anymore, but I had a Stone Mountain TD05 that I bought from SSAC. When I attempted to thread in the studs on the turbine housing, I broke the casting into three pieces. The casting was terrible, which also extended to the compressor housing, the wheels, and the CHRA itself. Most turbos have a vacuum cast turbine wheel, either made out of steel or inconel. This one was made of cast iron. zzzzzzWWwweeeeeeeeee clatter clatter clatter.
If you don't beleive me, just look at the auction that you provided. Look at how bad the casting shift is on the compressor outlet!!!
Disclaimer: I still use SSAC Wastegates, V-bands and flanges
</TD></TR></TABLE>did your compressor housing have that flat area with the serial no. stamped??
i'm just wondering... cuz thats one of the main differences between the turbos
10-03-2005, 09:32 AM
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Re: SSAutochrome's turbos and why they may be better! *LINK* (synik)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by synik »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Interesting.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah
i hope this doesn't turn into an ssac hate thread... just trying to see if possibly, they are now really selling semi decent turbos...
yeah
i hope this doesn't turn into an ssac hate thread... just trying to see if possibly, they are now really selling semi decent turbos...
10-03-2005, 09:40 AM
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Those look exactly the same as the ones I saw when I was just getting into F/I about 8 or 9 months ago. I doubt they're any different.
On a positive note, I've been happy with my SSAC wastegate and BOV. Knock on wood
On a positive note, I've been happy with my SSAC wastegate and BOV. Knock on wood
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10-03-2005, 10:11 AM
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i don't even wanna test those waters. lol i'm satsified with my ssac intercooler though but i don't know how to compare it anyways. lol
but i don't know how to compare it anyways. lol
10-03-2005, 01:12 PM
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Ive been running the new ssac turbos and they are a very good design. the internals are IDENTICAL to the garrett internals in quality and looks. Ur just paying half the price.. shurgs
10-03-2005, 07:10 PM
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I love the description! lol
"T3 / T4 FLANGE
FITS T3 AND T3/T4 MANIFOLDS"
"THIS TURBO CAN EASILY DO 25 psi
Great whp ON B SERIES SWAPS"
If you think their internals are the same quality as garrett you're on crack...
"T3 / T4 FLANGE
FITS T3 AND T3/T4 MANIFOLDS"
"THIS TURBO CAN EASILY DO 25 psi
Great whp ON B SERIES SWAPS"
If you think their internals are the same quality as garrett you're on crack...
10-03-2005, 07:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
If you think their internals are the same quality as garrett you're on crack...
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I don't think they are, I was stating that if they some how would start using garrett internals, they wouldn't be too bad. I wouldn't run one, but my dad is going to rip it apart and compare to a garrett just to see what is up in there.
And the wheels and housings and crap I don't think even interchange.
If you think their internals are the same quality as garrett you're on crack...
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I don't think they are, I was stating that if they some how would start using garrett internals, they wouldn't be too bad. I wouldn't run one, but my dad is going to rip it apart and compare to a garrett just to see what is up in there.
And the wheels and housings and crap I don't think even interchange.
10-03-2005, 07:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1boostedcivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ive been running the new ssac turbos and they are a very good design. the internals are IDENTICAL to the garrett internals in quality and looks. Ur just paying half the price.. shurgs</TD></TR></TABLE>
I was referring to this..
I was referring to this..
10-03-2005, 07:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93turbo16 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't think they are, I was stating that if they some how would start using garrett internals, they wouldn't be too bad. I wouldn't run one, but my dad is going to rip it apart and compare to a garrett just to see what is up in there.
And the wheels and housings and crap I don't think even interchange.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Do you plan on doing some material analysis of the internals to find out exactly what type of steel/alloy Garrett and SSAC use? Just pulling it apart and looking at it won't tell you jack **** about the exact materials used and their properties.
And the wheels and housings and crap I don't think even interchange.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Do you plan on doing some material analysis of the internals to find out exactly what type of steel/alloy Garrett and SSAC use? Just pulling it apart and looking at it won't tell you jack **** about the exact materials used and their properties.
10-03-2005, 07:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by daveG »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Do you plan on doing some material analysis of the internals to find out exactly what type of steel/alloy Garrett and SSAC use? Just pulling it apart and looking at it won't tell you jack **** about the exact materials used and their properties. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I would hope that if the quality is worse it should be obvious by the comparing the materials beside each other. I don't exactly want to lab test this ****.
Maybe I can incorporate some thermo lab testing. Like blowing the turbo up or something fun like that.
Do you plan on doing some material analysis of the internals to find out exactly what type of steel/alloy Garrett and SSAC use? Just pulling it apart and looking at it won't tell you jack **** about the exact materials used and their properties. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I would hope that if the quality is worse it should be obvious by the comparing the materials beside each other. I don't exactly want to lab test this ****.
Maybe I can incorporate some thermo lab testing. Like blowing the turbo up or something fun like that.
10-03-2005, 07:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93turbo16 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would hope that if the quality is worse it should be obvious by the comparing the materials beside each other. I don't exactly want to lab test this ****.
Maybe I can incorporate some thermo lab testing. Like blowing the turbo up or something fun like that. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Blow them up then send me pieces of each like the compressor/turbine wheels and parts of the housings and bearings. I can probably sneak them into the lab and do some testing.
Maybe I can incorporate some thermo lab testing. Like blowing the turbo up or something fun like that. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Blow them up then send me pieces of each like the compressor/turbine wheels and parts of the housings and bearings. I can probably sneak them into the lab and do some testing.
10-03-2005, 07:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by daveG »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Blow them up then send me pieces of each like the compressor/turbine wheels and parts of the housings and bearings. I can probably sneak them into the lab and do some testing. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Sounds like a plan. I think a nice charge in the each housing might do just fine.
Blow them up then send me pieces of each like the compressor/turbine wheels and parts of the housings and bearings. I can probably sneak them into the lab and do some testing.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Sounds like a plan. I think a nice charge in the each housing might do just fine.
10-03-2005, 07:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stealthmode62 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> The new statistics are out.
-Number of bad feedbacks needed to put you out of business.
Honda Tech sponsor = 1
SSAC = endless
I don't get it.
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-Number of bad feedbacks needed to put you out of business.
Honda Tech sponsor = 1
SSAC = endless
I don't get it.
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10-03-2005, 10:02 PM
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yeah yeah, well its working for me. besides, b18bturbo tore my one apart and rebuild it back together and said it looked pretty good and hes a sponser. and my small t3 made 194whp at 9 psi. so im happy with it.
10-04-2005, 01:50 AM
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the reason why everyone wants to know if they r gonna be good or better is that they are insanely cheap like buying wal-mart brand pop u know its not gonna taste as good but its cheaper and gets the job done in a similar fashion.
u want baller **** save ur money.
u want wal-mart go buy it.
write back and let us know.
u want baller **** save ur money.
u want wal-mart go buy it.
write back and let us know.