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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 02:21 PM
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Any of you guys running a Spoon Thermostat especially during this last winter?

I hate the ******* thing. I just got my car tuned with Hondata and the little bitch keeps the car running so cold on the highway, it's below regular operating temperature and I can not even get into Vtec then. I was wondering if any of you have the same problem.

I've also heard that I can't just swap out to a regular thermostat right now without retuning because it will cause it to run too lean.

Ain't that some ****?
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 02:45 PM
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also wondering....

I have one waiting to go in this summer.....dont think it will be a summer problem though? anyone else?
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 02:47 PM
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i keep my mugen thermostat in all the time, works fine in the winter, just takes the car a little longer to warm up.
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 04:21 PM
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I also run a codler thermostat. not Spoon/mugen. but same thing. 160* open instead of stock 183* I think it was? and I used it all winter. I have my stock fan and a 10" fan on most of the time too. No problems here... Maybe your' thermostat is sticking open? It shouldn't cool it that much. it should close if the temps get that low.
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 04:40 PM
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i run a mugen and i dont have any problems... hell, i ran it for 2 months without a fan or over flow... never got over 180
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 04:42 PM
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its not a good idea to run anything but a stock thermostat if you're using a program like hondata, otherwise it would always be in the warmup enrichment cycle.
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 04:44 PM
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does anyone know the temp that the stock thermo opens at?
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 05:02 PM
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i think it opens at 183... or 190, somthing in between there
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 05:35 PM
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i was logging temps in uber last week and mine wouldn't open until after 205*
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 05:39 PM
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well at least thats when my fan would kick in and my temps would start going back down. Could this be the reason that i blow headgaskets? If my thermo isn't opening until 205*?
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 05:40 PM
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stock thermostats starts opening at 169*-176* and is fully open at 194*
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 05:44 PM
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oh. I thought the fan came on when the thermo opens. my fan doesn't come on until 205 like i said. How high should temps get before they start dropping back down?
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 05:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mase &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">its not a good idea to run anything but a stock thermostat if you're using a program like hondata, otherwise it would always be in the warmup enrichment cycle. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah that's what I was told. If you're never seeing 180 degrees coolant temperatures the stock ecu is using the warmup map until that temp is reached. I'm also not sure but that would mean Vtec can not be engaged either.

Do you see any downsides to switching to the stock thermostat without retuning?
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 05:47 PM
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the fan switch will always be higher than the thermostat... if i remember correctly.. because if teh fan comes on before the thermostat opens, its kinda pointless for the fan to be on
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 05:48 PM
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Ah no the fan runs off the ECT switch. Not quite sure when temps are suppsoed to go down tho...
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 05:50 PM
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on my car (99si) it has its own fan switch, located right next to the thermostat..

mine went bad, so i just swapped the switch and the thermo at the same time
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 05:50 PM
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alright i gotcha. Anyone know when the temps are suppost to go down?
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 07:37 PM
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there is nothing wrong with the stock thermostat. oh wait its a mugen piece n/m!!!
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