B-Series Sol

What is a good kit for SOHC Turbo...

I heard Greddy is pretty good, how much that cost?

Charlie Moua

iTrader: (3)

about 1400

KoRE

i have a greddy on mine 1500 on groupbuycenter.com maybe even less sometimes......

i hear good things about apexi also

brcivic411

Greddy kit is good for the street. the td04h-15g turbo has minimum lag but runs out of steam when you want to run higher hp.

the Drag kit is a little bit better for higher hp applications with a larger turbo.

the FMAX kit has fitment issues

turbod97ex

The Greddy kit is perfect for an SOHC, especially if you have no plans of building it and making a ton of hp. You can still make around 205 whp with the Greddy kit at 11 psi on your stock SOHC, properly tuned of course. At that boost rate, you will be able to take out a Mustang GT. Decide what you want out of your setup and plan accordingly.

B-Series Sol

Looking to run hi 12's Low 13's if possible. Also, im planning on buying Honda4b too to help me in my quest.

Will greddy push enough boost to make this happen? Or should i look at a larger turbo?

VTC_CiViC

Depends on the car. If it's a CX/VX with a D16 swap and a GReddy, yea you'll be seeing 12's with relative ease. On a 5/6G loaded EX coupe on the other hand.. things get alot more difficule when you add 300+lbs. Best I've managed was a 14.1 @ 101mph, but that's more because of a 2.4 60' time than anything, the power/speed is there for a mid 13 second pass, just gotta hook up dammit!

B-Series Sol

Trying to build a 96 DX hatch.

Planning:
Greddy or Drag Turbo Kit
Hondata 4b or AEM EMS
DSM Injectors
AEM Fuel Rail/FPR
3" Pipe
Thermal R&D Exhaust
EX Tranmission

Cant decide to pull the motor out and put an EX motor in it, or Stick w/ the DX motor.

Also cant decide on what turbo kit.

boostincoupe

Do a mini-me swap (is that what it's called?), which is a SOHC VTEC cylinder head on a non-VTEC block. then turbo that setup.

CovertFI

custom turbo kit

VTC_CiViC

ill_take_one

What kind of tires (size/brand) are you running Dave? just curious!
thanks

TurboSedan

Custom is good, that is what I did and I am happy.

Smashback

Heh, us guys need to form a secret society to bring all SOHC turbo people together

B-Series Sol

he he, seriously!

so ur sure the Mini-Me swap can handle the boost as well as an EX motor? Cuz these SOHC motors are so cheap, i would rather just buy the right one, no point in hybriding if it wont work as well.

turbod97ex

The intake on your engine intakes air from the top rather than the side like an EX is. That will be another chage you will need to plan for with any kit you buy because they all kits' charge pipes are designed to intake on the side. I don't think anyone has made a turbo kit for the 1.5-1.6 non-vtec yet.
Look at getting a D16Y8 and look at the same time at the B16A and what you can do with both. It all boils down to what your goals are - what kind of power you want to make, streetability, 1/4 mile times, etc. For sure, I would swap it for at least the D16Y8. Don't get ripped on the deal.

Midwestrider

I have just finshing installing NX kit (50shot) and have only sprayed maybe 5-7 times and ready to sell everything and get a turbo for my D16y8 (2000ex).

I have been reading in FI for some time and still undecied on if I should get the Greddy Kit w/ IC, bov, or get the Apexi Kit w/ IC and bov.
Or just go custom. If custom I was thinking of doing T3 super 60 turbo, but I am not sure what is best suited for my needs.

Seem alot of ppl with sohc's on here like the greddy and are happy. I have seen leadtrum's post on the apexi kit and he seems happy with it.
I see VTC_Civic and JFK78 make good #'s from the greddy.

I drive my car daily, autocross and want something more fun to drive. I can care less what I would run in the 1/4 mile.
At the most I wanna boost 10 psi intercooled. I had already planed to rebuild the motor for the nitrous setup. But since nitrous is not for me I will still proceed to build the motor if I go with turbo.

Below is the thing I have and are looking to get.

Things I alredy have:
MSD Digtial 6
MSD Blaster Coil
MSD Plug Wires
NGK Plugs - BKR73's
AEM Fuel Rail
AEM FPR
Walbro Fuel Pump *not high pressure on*
Apexi Dunk
Greddy Fuel and Oil Pressue gauges

Parts that I plan to buy are:
ACT Xtreme PP w/ Hybrid street disc
Zex 10lb flywheel
Quaife ATB
Eagle Rods
JE Pistons (10:1 c/r)
Full Ferrea Valvetrain *springs, ti retainers, valves*
PnP head
Either Zex cam #59300 or Crower Turbo cam #63441

Parts to complete turbo setup:
Hondata w boost option
Injectors
Greddy boost, a/f, and maybe oil temp gauge.
Greddy Profec B
Greddy Turbo timer

I am not asking which is better etc.. I am I looking for is personal input on your setup.
Thanks
Eric

glagola1

I recently installed the Apex kit on my 94si and I have to say that it is about 15 times better than the greddy. Fitment is near factory perfect and the turbo itself is super sweet. Ball bearing turbos kick ***. It's very quiet and it pulles way harder than the greddy. I was running 10psi on the greddy and I'm running 6psi on the Apex and the Apex feels stronger. Go figure.

turbofed EX

i have the greddy kit on my 97 ex and it is great i just tuned it a little bit more so i can run 10psi , before i was only running 6psi. the kit is good for that extra little go when you need it, plus it is fun beating up on the stangs

VTC_CiViC

Dyno it. Alot of people have been commenting that the Apex'i kit makes gobs more power than the GReddy, but I knew somebody with an Apex'i on a D16Z6 who got something like 185whp @ 6psi, while I got 180whp @ 6psi on my GReddy. Yea I guess it made more power, but is it worth the $3k price tag? Hello no.. GReddy please!

FMXer

When does the Greddy kit start to make boost on a SOHC?

glagola1

See, I've owned both turbos. The Apexi is hands down a better turbo. I paid 1550 for it used but it was only used for three weeks. Anyway, there is a little bit more lag but it breaths much better. The greddy used to run out of breath near red line and it felt like my power was dropping off a bit. The Apex pulls hard all the way. It reminds me of a T3.


Even if the numbers aren't there the feel is all I need.

Midwestrider

Thanks for the input guys.

TurBoXBirD16

it really depends on what u want for ur car

if u just want it to pull harder on street, i would say go with the greddy !

if you want like SERIOUS power on Sohc, don't get the apexi, go custom

if i were to choose between apexi and greddy, i would choose greddy, why spending so much more money on a kit that gains (maybe) a little more power?

and which by spending a little more money from the apexi kit, u can gain serious power by going custom...

if you have the money to build your engine, go custom...
if not, or it's not in your plan, go greddy

GREDDY RULES, right everybody?? haha !

Hey STEVE, did you say you tune it abit to run 10 psii?? how??
keeep us updated man !

glagola1

Well, here's my take on the Apex kit. It cost substantially more than the Greddy. This is bad. I was able to find one for 1550 because everyone is like, "yo, get Greddy or get Drag! ... or custom." I guess there is no appreciation for quality. The IHI turbo is a high tech turbo that can be water cooled to boot. Everything from the intake to the oil fittings are higher quality than Greddy. It's all in the details.

The Apex spools to full boost around 3500 rpms and holds it there. The Greddy spooled a little sooner or about the same time but it would taper off in the higher revs.

If you are looking for a QUALITY turbo kit, this might be it. Subaru uses the exact same turbo on the WRX Sti. That's pretty cool. The greddy is used on light duty trucks.

I've run them both so I think I'm qualified in my statements. Don't get me wrong. The greddy is an awsome deal at it's price but you get what you pay for. That's the bottom line.