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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 07:13 PM
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i'm looking at buying a turbo hatch that's on HT. but the owner told me it smokes on decel a little, what could be the cause of that? it's ls turbo, never posted in this forum so i'm not sure what info you guys would need..
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 07:16 PM
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could be the valve stem seals
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 07:17 PM
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take your 8 post and hit the ******* red X at the top right of the screen and never come back.
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 07:21 PM
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My X is kind of grey\black, does this apply to me also??

Somebody help this kid
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 07:21 PM
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<- does it look like i'm laughing lol.
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 07:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by iHOPEyouCHOKE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">take your 8 post and hit the ******* red X at the top right of the screen and never come back.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Why the hell would I do that, sorry for trying to ******* help. When you have weak valve stem seals the vacuum from the cylinders upon decel causes oil to be pulled past the seals and burned in the cylinders. But you knew that right
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 07:29 PM
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this is kinda low tech, but its a good indication.

go up a hill, and then coast down it with the car in 4th/5th gear without giving it any gas.

If it puffs blue smoke when you take it out of gear and give it some gas, your pistons rings are done.


Modified by jrponline at 8:51 PM 10/24/2005
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 07:33 PM
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can you put some tech behind that ^^^ so i understand it a little more...
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 07:47 PM
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no problem.

Its the high vaccuum that is caused from going downhill underload that causes oil to be "sucked into" the combustion chamber. So really, it could be your oil control rings, or your valve guides/seals. no way to be sure, other than to dissassemble and check.
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 07:58 PM
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Understood...bump
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 08:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by heretolearnandteach &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Why the hell would I do that, sorry for trying to ******* help. When you have weak valve stem seals the vacuum from the cylinders upon decel causes oil to be pulled past the seals and burned in the cylinders. But you knew that right</TD></TR></TABLE>

you said valve stem seals and that's it, i figured you were being sarcastic (tire stems).. sorry for the mis understanding.

so the smoking could be a problem?
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 08:45 PM
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LOL thats funny.
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 09:00 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by iHOPEyouCHOKE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

you said valve stem seals and that's it, i figured you were being sarcastic (tire stems)</TD></TR></TABLE>

lol
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 09:28 PM
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bump
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 04:06 AM
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its the valve stem seals...he's right.

decel is obviously vaccuum. so thats the problem, get the head checked out.
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 07:31 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by iHOPEyouCHOKE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

you said valve stem seals and that's it, i figured you were being sarcastic (tire stems).. sorry for the mis understanding. </TD></TR></TABLE>

haha, I can see that ending up in someone's signature
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 10:29 AM
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I have the same problem. At acceleration no smoke. When shift in neutral or let it breaking in 3 or 4 gears the blue smoke shut out of exhaust. Then smoking stops.
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 12:13 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by iHOPEyouCHOKE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you said valve stem seals and that's it, i figured you were being sarcastic (tire stems).. sorry for the mis understanding.

so the smoking could be a problem?</TD></TR></TABLE>

lol, I was like "Jesus...does this guy have terrets or what?"

And as for your question, as long as it doesnt smoke on acceleration I think its the valve stem seals. Have someone drive behind you and get on it, that the best way to figure it out. Compression test will tell you what kind of condition your rings are in.
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 01:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by heretolearnandteach &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Why the hell would I do that, sorry for trying to ******* help. When you have weak valve stem seals the vacuum from the cylinders upon decel causes oil to be pulled past the seals and burned in the cylinders. But you knew that right</TD></TR></TABLE>

This is really good info, I had the same problem.. turns out it was one of my problems though, have the head checked, and do a Comp test, leak down. good luck.
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 02:06 PM
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yup i would have the head checked also.

iHOPEyouCHOKE: Sounds like you need chill just a bit. Valve seals and tire stems? Sounds like you need to learn a bit more before messing with FI. $.02
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 02:16 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Civicman86 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yup i would have the head checked also.

iHOPEyouCHOKE: Sounds like you need chill just a bit. Valve seals and tire stems? Sounds like you need to learn a bit more before messing with FI. $.02</TD></TR></TABLE>

sounds like YOU do...

tire stems or valve stems are not effected by boost
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 04:48 PM
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 05:59 PM
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lol

funny *** peoples in here
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 06:06 PM
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