Balor_Gr

If your still thinking about a platform,
kswap turbo toyota mr2 spyder is probably the best performance platform that wont break the bank.
We have a 700whp mr2-spyder kswap here that destroys everything. And trust me we have INFINITE very high hp AWD cars here due to VWGROUP...
Other than that a BMW E30 chassis with 3 liter 6cylinder.You can make it 2300 lbs. Well thats VERY fast platform too.

k20z1ej1

K swap mr2s are awesome, sleeper (ish) and can wreck most any street car. Brandon Wilburs mr2 (and NSX) are some of the most badass roll racing street cars ive ever seen. I think boosted is looking to go really fast for super cheap, though. To build a turbo k swap mr2 is super expensive, the guys making north of 700 are spending well over 30k to build the car. Meanwhile, a turbo lsx car could easily be built for under 20k and go 8s all day.

boosted94gsr

Cupajoe

aww man it's gone *sniffle*

Aradin

Good luck with your next build brother. Keep us updated. Kinda sad you sold it. One of my favorite Civics and I'm not really a big Civic guy lol. $6k for it seems crazy low for me. I guess I'm used to seeing similar cars going for $8-10k in my area, or at least that's what people are asking for them haha.

Balor_Gr

Well i guess prices are different on ther other side of the earth right? haha.
A good mr-2S shel is like 1500
K24 block 800
k20a2 head 600
block-head internals / sleeving 8000
Toyota or honda trans (id use toyota with toyota axles) +mounts 2000
ECU/wiring/tuning 2000
Νο "bling bling" turbo kit 3500.
Its nowhere near 30000.
I could do it with less than 20000$ at the US.
Its a matter or preference
I like V8s but i thought things are more expensive for them and that they are heavy so you need more power to make em work.
But i cant say i know stuff about V8s

scottcraft

I hate to see the civic gone, but it's going to be fun to see what you build next.
I think the k swapped mr2 is pretty cool. A buddy of has one that he is in the process of putting a tvs supercharger on.

k20z1ej1

thats fair. i was assuming using a honda transmission which would require an aftermarket gearset which would be 6-10k

Autoworks

Turbo S2000.
Swap the trans/rear end...everything else will seem easy/inexpensive from there.

Balor_Gr

Yeah thats easy also.

K7-1Ktrevor

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boosted94gsr

K7-1Ktrevor

Balor_Gr

Yeah i guess that might be a problem too haha/
I mean if i can win 9 second cars on the street, thats the dream for me.(Thats the reason im searching around for rally/race shops that might help me for a serious awd conversion)
Im in europe and still hill climb is the competitive racing for us here. With another car of course.
I like drag racing but not too much. I can definately see drag racing is the thing in the states tho.
What im trying to say is that at least here 9/10 super fast cars dont race in the strip because its not representitive of
what it can do in the street if thats understandable

JDM Integra-R

I wonder how the pistons are still?
I constantly see bad reviews about nipon, but have not yet found any supporting facts.
I wonder what maximum EGT can withstand nipon?
What kind of P2W gap have you used?

Cupajoe

I used the nippon racing 10:5:1 81mm setup in my 160k mile b16 block.

NA the pistons were fine. Once I gave them power over 260whp they would always break the ringlands.

I was getting it tuned by a 'good' tuner in the area- that honestly is up for the debate.

Anyway first tune blew npr head gasket with copper spray and arp studs.

2nd tune oem honda head gasket no copper spray arp head studs, head gasket held fine.

Blew ringland on cylinder 2 and 3.

Replaced those pistons and blew cylinder 3 again on last tune.

I was running rings with an end gap of .17 and .20 for bottom I believe.

They said to do .20 and .22 - but I didn't think it would matter at that low power.

I eventually just sold the car. I didn't want to put another grand into it. I never got the block machined, just did a flex hone each time. I researched a lot of guys doing this with great success at higher power levels - thought I could get lucky guess not.

JDM Integra-R

In your case, the pistons have nothing to do with it.
Rather errors when assembling the engine.
The gap in the ring is important, the smaller the gap - the greater the likelihood of failure.

Cupajoe

Why would the ringlands blow at 260whp on conservative timing, compared to stock block stock ring gap cars pushing 300-400whp all day?

Are you saying 17 top and 20 bottom is that great of a difference compared to 20 top 22 bottom for the low numbers I was pushing?

Does not make sense to me.

LightningTeg

Ring gaps probably not the cause of the problem. I run 22-24 but Im making 650whp.

Sounds like the tuner is to blame honestly. Should not be blowing stuff up at 260whp no matter whats in it.

Cupajoe

I agree- guy is no good.

K7-1Ktrevor

My awd crx is running Nippon turbo pistons on 19.5lbs on a b20 vtec right now. I have the timing pretty conservative but it makes enough power to scare the crap out of me.500 miles on the engine so far and running strong.

boosted94gsr

Thats awesome man!

In my experience nippon turbo pistons are very strong, I actually worry about stock sleeve (especially b20) more then I do about the ring lands on nippon pistons lol. I have a buddy that’s been over 500whp for a very long time with nippon turbo pistons, he beats the living **** out of his car too, but he also tuned it properly witch makes all the difference in the world.

If I remember right my civic was only ~17 top and ~19 second ring gap, I never measured the p2w clearance, just honed the stock 81mm bore and dropped them in. Haven’t heard anything about the car since it sold so not sure how it’s doing now.

JDM Integra-R

[QUOTE = Cupajoe; 51898392] Почему на умеренных сроках кольцевые земли дуют со скоростью 260 л.с. по сравнению с машинами с кольцевыми зазорами в серийных блоках со скоростью 300-400 л.с. весь день?

Вы хотите сказать, что 17 верхних и 20 нижних - это большая разница по сравнению с 20 верхними 22 низами для низких чисел, которые я нажимал?

Не имеет смысла для меня. [/ QUOTE]
The gap depends on the composition and the diameter of the cylinder. I just always follow the instructions, or calculate by the formula.

Txdragon

I had a bad experience with Nippon pistons; 2 of them cracked. Tuned by a reputable tuner too. To Nippon's defense, the did come in contact with valves, but it was seriously the slightest of contact. They shouldn't have broke at all within this particular event. Similar to dropping a glass on a patch of grass; should it have broke on such a soft surface? Common sense would say, "Well, it WAS dropped..". Anyways, it's a good example of how "reputable" parts are not immune to any type of failure, and the old saying "**** happens" TOTALLY applies...