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Old 09-07-2005, 02:31 PM
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is this setup posible for 600-700 whp?
if not what should be posible with this kinda setup

This is the main stuff

B18c5
84 mm arias 9.8cr pistons
probe h beam rods
Port and polished b16 head
Super tech valves flat face
Port flow springs/retainers
Blox type a cams
Victory x intake
BMC Super Elf turbo manifold
t3 H.O. 67 82.ar turbo
44m waste gate

Hondata s300
Running on c16 gas
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Default Re: setup posible for 600-700 whp (radeon)

it could be possible, but u might wanna get a bigger turbo, like the gt40/67
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Default Re: setup posible for 600-700 whp (jdmhonda)

is this a streetcar?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmhonda &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it could be possible, but u might wanna get a bigger turbo, like the gt40/67</TD></TR></TABLE>

The T3/T67 HO and the GT4067 are very comparable in power output considering they use the exact same compressor wheel and a similar turbine wheel, although one is just in a larger housing. It's already made ~730 WHP on 93H22ACX's car, so I don't see any need for him to go "bigger"
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by radeon &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
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Didn't notice these at first. If they're anything like their pistons there is NO WAY I would put 600-700 through them. I'd say 8000 RPM's and 400-odd WHP MAX. I had some of their pistons and the tolerances were shoddy and they were thin on the crown and break on lots of people. Not up to par with Eagles, but I'd look at a set of Manley's for that motor, cheap insurance @ 700 WHP.
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Default Re: setup posible for 600-700 whp (radeon)

what are u going to do for a fuel system?
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Default Re: setup posible for 600-700 whp (flip1199)

Hondata s300
Running on c16 gas, thats what he's gonna use
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmhonda &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hondata s300
Running on c16 gas, thats what he's gonna use</TD></TR></TABLE>
A big pump and some braided lines too.
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Default Re: setup posible for 600-700 whp (93supercoupe)

Hope you have some big injectors that you forgot to throw in with that list
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Default Re: setup posible for 600-700 whp (radeon)

Get a stage 3 Full Race turbo kit that it includes a T3/T67 Turbo , this kit includes all the parts you need to go turbo and they are good till 600+whp.

What engine are you going to build !?

If it`s a B18C5 like you stated in your list . Get some Pauter rods with CP pistons , they are the nicest setup for rods/pistons combo . make the compression at 9:1 if you are going to use this motor on the streets. Skip the Blox cams and run Stock TypeR cams , they are great cams for turbo ,you see alot of great setups running stock TypeR cams with adjustable cam gears . You didn`t list any sleeves in your list so I think you are going to run stock sleeves , with a good tuner you can get near 600whp with stock sleeves as we are seeing impresive setups running stock sleeves latley on the forum running 28lbs of boost on stock blocks and make impresive whp numbers

If you do some searching on the forum you will see alot of great setups and you can learn alot from them . you will learn like what injectors to get , I think that you need 1000cc injectors ,what fueling system you are going to run and bunch of other things . Hondata S300 is a great setup from what I am hearing , hopefully that`s what I am going to run with my setup

Good luck with your build
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I would use pauter rods
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boosted92 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Didn't notice these at first. If they're anything like their pistons there is NO WAY I would put 600-700 through them. I'd say 8000 RPM's and 400-odd WHP MAX. I had some of their pistons and the tolerances were shoddy and they were thin on the crown and break on lots of people. Not up to par with Eagles, but I'd look at a set of Manley's for that motor, cheap insurance @ 700 WHP.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes I agree, when I approached Probe on some pistons for my new motor, planning over 700whp they said NO their pistons are not good for that whp, sorry. I would get some Pauter or Manley rods either will be fine! The turbo has made the power before so that is not a problem
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Eagles are MORE than capable to fully support your hp goals, JUST as good as any of hte other rods mentioned...just for 1/3 to 1/4 the price
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rhd &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Eagles are MORE than capable to fully support your hp goals, JUST as good as any of hte other rods mentioned...just for 1/3 to 1/4 the price</TD></TR></TABLE>

1/4 the price? 1/4 the price of some titanium cunninghams, maybe. Are eagles a good rod? Yes. Do I run eagles in my motors? Most of the time, yes (I've had 4 turbo honda motor and built 3 others, and all but the one I have now have had eagles in them)

Are eagles still forged and machined in Asia? You bet. Is the quality and precision of their work and machines as good as stuff made in America? I doubt it. When we're talking about building a motor that's making ~6.6 horsepower/cubic inch I'm a firm believer that overkill is just enough. Besides, what's 325 bucks extra for some peace of mind? That's dinner and a movie twice. I'll take that 325 dollar hit if it means saving my 1000 dollar sleeves, 1500 dollar head, and 800 dollar turbo if the Eagles ever decide to let go.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boosted92 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

1/4 the price? 1/4 the price of some titanium cunninghams, maybe. Are eagles a good rod? Yes. Do I run eagles in my motors? Most of the time, yes (I've had 4 turbo honda motor and built 3 others, and all but the one I have now have had eagles in them)

Are eagles still forged and machined in Asia? You bet. Is the quality and precision of their work and machines as good as stuff made in America? I doubt it. When we're talking about building a motor that's making ~6.6 horsepower/cubic inch I'm a firm believer that overkill is just enough. Besides, what's 325 bucks extra for some peace of mind? That's dinner and a movie twice. I'll take that 325 dollar hit if it means saving my 1000 dollar sleeves, 1500 dollar head, and 800 dollar turbo if the Eagles ever decide to let go.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I agree! It is cheaper to do it once RIGHT then to have to tear it apart when you skimped and have to buy a nunch of replacement parts. I like to OVERDO things to be on the safe side
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don't see why not.
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Default Re: setup posible for 600-700 whp (radeon)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by radeon &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is this setup posible for 600-700 whp?
if not what should be posible with this kinda setup

This is the main stuff

B18c5
84 mm arias 9.8cr pistons
probe h beam rods
Port and polished b16 head
Super tech valves flat face
Port flow springs/retainers
Blox type a cams
Victory x intake
BMC Super Elf turbo manifold
t3 H.O. 67 82.ar turbo
44m waste gate

Hondata s300
Running on c16 gas
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seems like you still have a lot of homework to do. either that or you just forgot to list a lot of other parts to make 600-700whp
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ya theres still alot of other stuff ,, i just was trying to keep it short

i was thinking of geting 1000cc or 1200cc injector

i was going to go with the dual stage boost controller

low boost for the streets and high for the track

i would be happy if i hit 600+ with about 25-28 psi

the blox profile are a lil bit bigger that the ctr cams but a lil bit smaller than the skunk stage one cam ... i know some one with the skunk stage one cams and is making over 600+ whp , i know the lobes are a lil big for turbo so i was trying to find something in between
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i think 1200cc would be better... get a sump if you want to be on the safe side and make more power. or get a walbro 255lp hp one if you want to do about 600 or close to that. depending on if its a street car or not 25-28 psi is doable depending on the size of the turbo. that t3/t67 should be able to do it, i got the standard t3/t67 with .63ar and i did 600 at around 26 psi
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That turbo should support up to 620HP.. I also hope you invest in your tranny and driveshafs.

Speaking of which, all you w/ 550+ WHP daily drivers, what axles do you guys run?
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im still on stock axle for now until i save up enough money to get some axles. but i will probably go with dss or gator. i have a set of tci 500+ axle laying around that im thinking about putting in.
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Default Re: setup posible for 600-700 whp (Marlon88)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Marlon88 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Get a stage 3 Full Race turbo kit that it includes a T3/T67 Turbo , this kit includes all the parts you need to go turbo and they are good till 600+whp.

What engine are you going to build !?

If it`s a B18C5 like you stated in your list . Get some Pauter rods with CP pistons , they are the nicest setup for rods/pistons combo . make the compression at 9:1 if you are going to use this motor on the streets. Skip the Blox cams and run Stock TypeR cams , they are great cams for turbo ,you see alot of great setups running stock TypeR cams with adjustable cam gears . You didn`t list any sleeves in your list so I think you are going to run stock sleeves , with a good tuner you can get near 600whp with stock sleeves as we are seeing impresive setups running stock sleeves latley on the forum running 28lbs of boost on stock blocks and make impresive whp numbers

If you do some searching on the forum you will see alot of great setups and you can learn alot from them . you will learn like what injectors to get , I think that you need 1000cc injectors ,what fueling system you are going to run and bunch of other things . Hondata S300 is a great setup from what I am hearing , hopefully that`s what I am going to run with my setup

Good luck with your build </TD></TR></TABLE>

He said hes gettin 84mm pistons so I assume hes going with an aftermarket sleeve. Atleast I hope so

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tommy69 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That turbo should support up to 620HP.. I also hope you invest in your tranny and driveshafs.

Speaking of which, all you w/ 550+ WHP daily drivers, what axles do you guys run?</TD></TR></TABLE>

What turbo are u talking about? The turbo hes referring to has already made 730whp, so unless I missed something that would be wrong.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Blue98Ex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What turbo are u talking about? The turbo hes referring to has already made 730whp, so unless I missed something that would be wrong.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The T3/T67 on the F-R website refers to 620whp
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by radeon &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ya theres still alot of other stuff ,, i just was trying to keep it short

i was thinking of geting 1000cc or 1200cc injector

i was going to go with the dual stage boost controller

low boost for the streets and high for the track

i would be happy if i hit 600+ with about 25-28 psi

the blox profile are a lil bit bigger that the ctr cams but a lil bit smaller than the skunk stage one cam ... i know some one with the skunk stage one cams and is making over 600+ whp , i know the lobes are a lil big for turbo so i was trying to find something in between </TD></TR></TABLE>

I would re think that boost controller and go with one of the quad stage deals, as 2 stages is just not enough with 700 hp.
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Default Re: setup posible for 600-700 whp (tommy69)

he's talkin about the T3/T67 HO it's rated at over 700 i believe

http://www.full-race.com/catal...d=468


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