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Old 11-03-2004, 08:26 PM
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hey guys, my friend is giving me a great deal on a NOS nitrous system and i have a few questions. the kit is a wet kit and i was wondering what all i would need to safely run a 100 shot on my h22. i've ran a compression check and leak down test and everything came up good. since NOS kits are rated to the flywheel it would be like running a 85 or 90 shot. my motor is pretty much stock. i have aem cai, clutchmaster stage 3 clutch, a walboro fuel pump, aem fpr, aem fuel rail, NGK bkr7e plugs, and a few other minor things. would it be ok to spray every once in awhile? maybe like 2 or three times a weekend or something like that? im not in a huge hurry to spray, id rather be safe than sorry i just wanted to know what you guys think. thanks
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Im not sure about a 100shot
I have the same setup as you do and I run a Zex kit w/ 55shot. I run 3 step colder plugs and take out 2 degrees of timing when I spray and it makes a good diference. I have been thinking about a 65shot, but I just wouldn't spray a 100shot, unless you want to blow your motor up.
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a 100 shot will not blow up a h22. Just retard the timing about 4 degrees and use everythign you have listed, it'll be fine.

Another idea would be to get a MSD with boost retard option, that way you can retard the timing from inside the cabin when you want to spray.

a 100 shot hits H A R D on this motor, enjoy it
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my buddy with a stock gsr sprayed 100 wet for over 2 years and its fine...he ran 12.02@11x consistantly with that 100 shot.

i'll be using 125 wet and tuned next week..so i'll let you know

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i've talked to a lot of people and have read a lot of topics and it seems the majority of people say its safe. i plan on getting the msd but wont be able to get it for another month or so. im going to the dyno in a week or so and tune it. i have the msd rpm window switch ordered as well as some gauges to monitor things. is there anything else that i have left out that you would do or any helpful ideas? thanks
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is it a single fogger or direct port kit?
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the nitrous rule of thumb is that you can safely spray half your Hp all day and night without problwms..... so for an h22 which make 200 hp, a 100 shot will be fine
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93H22ACX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> my buddy with a stock gsr sprayed 100 wet for over 2 years and its fine...he ran 12.02@11x consistantly with that 100 shot.

i'll be using 125 wet and tuned next week..so i'll let you know

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you put the 125 shot on yet?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by H22aDc2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im not sure about a 100shot
I have the same setup as you do and I run a Zex kit w/ 55shot. I run 3 step colder plugs and take out 2 degrees of timing when I spray and it makes a good diference. I have been thinking about a 65shot, but I just wouldn't spray a 100shot, unless you want to blow your motor up. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Good god man.....this is one of the worst cases of "safety overkill" I have ever seen! Do you also drive your car wearing steel belted underwear, bullet proof vest, full football gear, a 5 point harness plus your seatbelt too when you drive?
You're running a 55 shot, not a 155 shot and you're not doing your car any favors, performance wise, on or off the bottle. Run your stock heat range plugs if you're only going to use a 55-65 hp shot with a max 2 degree retard. You should be running at least a 75hp shot, keep your 2 degree retard and run 1 step colder plugs and you'll still be super safe and be able to go a lot faster. Unless your engine is a pile of junk or you do exceedingly stupid things while running nitrous you don't have a hope in hell of blowing your engine up.
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come on guys he is just trying to be safe ....so what if he asking SOME unusual questions" thats how we all learn.i my self have a higher goal? my goal is to spray 300 .this is on a fully built h22 and the nitrious set up is a pro race fogger direct port.i have 2 fuel pumps w/adj reg. 255 walboro for the fogger set up and a sx 1khp for the motor.actually this is for the turbo set up going in at the first of summer...3/4 deckplated 2.6L h22 w/t-74bb w/pro race fogger.


i am looking to dip into the lo-11's maybe even 10's ....this is a street car by the way.96 ek hatch? but car is not driven everyday,not that it makes a difference.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1700anddroping &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">come on guys he is just trying to be safe ....so what if he asking SOME unusual questions" thats how we all learn.i my self have a higher goal? my goal is to spray 300 .this is on a fully built h22 and the nitrious set up is a pro race fogger direct port.i have 2 fuel pumps w/adj reg. 255 walboro for the fogger set up and a sx 1khp for the motor.actually this is for the turbo set up going in at the first of summer...3/4 deckplated 2.6L h22 w/t-74bb w/pro race fogger.


i am looking to dip into the lo-11's maybe even 10's ....this is a street car by the way.96 ek hatch? but car is not driven everyday,not that it makes a difference.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Street car? 11's? lol yeah right 2.6 liter h22 wit 300shot and t74bb probably will do low 9's lol
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hey whats up buddy?havn't herd from you in a while.i am not talking about the 2.6L i am talking about the all motor h22 w/spray and of course it is stroked..ha ha? the 2.6L SHOULD PUT OUT AND THIS IS BEING CONSERVATIVE? 300 or more but knows.and yes i am hoping for some really lo-et's only time will tell.don't worry pics will be posted along w/dyno #'s and perhaps a video for the NON-BELIVERS.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1700anddroping &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey whats up buddy?havn't herd from you in a while.i am not talking about the 2.6L i am talking about the all motor h22 w/spray and of course it is stroked..ha ha? the 2.6L SHOULD PUT OUT AND THIS IS BEING CONSERVATIVE? 300 or more but knows.and yes i am hoping for some really lo-et's only time will tell.don't worry pics will be posted along w/dyno #'s and perhaps a video for the NON-BELIVERS.</TD></TR></TABLE>

whats up bro i havent been home lately... yeh your cars goin to be outa control when its done.. to those who dont believe in what hes saying, well u should ive seen pictures of this guys stuff and hes for real and he knows his stuff... good luck with the setup man send sum pics to my e-mail when you get a chance of anything new... laterz
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sure no problem? truthfully i was wanting to put the 2.6L into a eg hatch ,but i sold the bottom end and chassis 1 week before dyno time.i have a 96 ek hatch now,that if i do not fined some one to trade w/ "shells"...then it will be going in the ek.i have decided to paint what ever i get 05 bmw gray.my computer crashed "hard drive" but i can send pics of a few things.


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I am planning on running a wet 100 shot, but I have 1 question first. Is there a way to retard my timing on demand on my H22a? The plan is to set up a switch that retards the timing only when Nitrous is sprayed. Will Hondata do this, or the MSD system mentioned earlier? I know nothing about Nitrous, so I'd rather ask a "stupid" question than blow up my ****.
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the MSD digital 6 will retard timing on demand, also has a soft touch rev-limit which is also very good to have w/ nitrous.
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you can also use a multi-step retard ,or buy a in-**** pit adj. retard ,so that when your riding around set it ,then when you see some one that wants a little action,just turn the **** back and spray the hell out of it.when your done turn it back to where you had it.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by real_holyfield &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am planning on running a wet 100 shot, but I have 1 question first. Is there a way to retard my timing on demand on my H22a? The plan is to set up a switch that retards the timing only when Nitrous is sprayed. Will Hondata do this, or the MSD system mentioned earlier? I know nothing about Nitrous, so I'd rather ask a "stupid" question than blow up my ****. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yep the Hondata will also retard the timing back to whatever you want when the nitrous is engaged, that's how mine is set up in my car.
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