SC61 really worth it?
Okay, so I know that the SC61 is a great turbo for all the higher whp guys. I will eventually be up there too, but on a limited highschool budget, it's gonna take a while. So my question is...Is it really worth it to buy an sc61 and use it on a stock gsr motor? I will only be running 7-8lbs on the street and will like to turn it up to about 10 on race days. I am going to re-do my entire turbo setup, so that it will be able to handle 400-500whp later on. I would like to buy a lovefab sst and the sc61, because I know that they will be able to reach my goals later on. I am going to have to sell this turbo and manifold anyway, but do you guys think I should hold out on this turbo until my motor is built, or buy the manifold and turbo and slap it on as is. Will there be too much lag on the street? What spec sc61 should I get? Also, I still have a stock clutch/flywheel, and I want to buy one that will last even with 500whp. Is the clutch masters fx400 enough? Cliff notes:
In the future, I want to build my motor, and reach 4-500whp, what spec turbo, and is it worth it to buy it now?
In the future, I want to build my motor, and reach 4-500whp, what spec turbo, and is it worth it to buy it now?
ehh....... thats a matter of opinion, in all aspects, if you have the money now, why not.... but i wouldn't use it yet, just save it....... 10psi on a sc61 is hardly within its efficiency range, from what I've seen....... you're better off with a t3/t4 for now on a stock motor, and a simple manifold, you can pick up both for under 600 new I would say.....then the bigger turbo on a built motor at higher boost would work well...... and then when you do go to build it up, you already have two of the most expensive pieces....as for lag, that depends, but at low boost, it can't be that bad.... just my opinion
Well, the price is no different that SC61, but OverblownTeg made a tubular ss manifold + kit for prophet's stock GS-R engine with SC32 turbo. boosted hybrid did the Hyundaidata tuning, made 251 whp at 5.5 psi. THAT is matching setup, compressor, car, and tuning perfectly. Wonder what you'd push at 8 psi, eh?
The SC61 is an excellent turbo that starts making the lots of power at midrange boost levels, but it is by no means as efficient as the less potent SC32 in the lower boost realm.
The SC61 is an excellent turbo that starts making the lots of power at midrange boost levels, but it is by no means as efficient as the less potent SC32 in the lower boost realm.
it all depends on your set up and goals.
lots of people are jumping on the wagon ..and right fully so in a way , its a damn good turbo but for lots its TOO MUCH! plain and simple.
make a plan (a real one..its very easy to be in highschool and day dream about your 500 whp fwd honda.. BE REAL w/ yourself..it sucks and is hard to do for some but its the best way) as to what you wanna do and how you want it to be.
youll know more then whether the sc61 is for you or not
lots of people are jumping on the wagon ..and right fully so in a way , its a damn good turbo but for lots its TOO MUCH! plain and simple.
make a plan (a real one..its very easy to be in highschool and day dream about your 500 whp fwd honda.. BE REAL w/ yourself..it sucks and is hard to do for some but its the best way) as to what you wanna do and how you want it to be.
youll know more then whether the sc61 is for you or not
Heres my .02 cents
IMO its not worth it because yes you said it yourself you are in high school=high school budget, unless your parents are paying to mod your car. Keep this in mind, a turbo setup and motor need parts that work well together unless your going with all top of the line products and aiming for big#'s then this sc61 might be an outkast, especially if you only plan on running 7-8 psi. Start small, learn and upgrade as you go
IMO its not worth it because yes you said it yourself you are in high school=high school budget, unless your parents are paying to mod your car. Keep this in mind, a turbo setup and motor need parts that work well together unless your going with all top of the line products and aiming for big#'s then this sc61 might be an outkast, especially if you only plan on running 7-8 psi. Start small, learn and upgrade as you go
Start small, learn and upgrade as you go
Thats one of the problems, I already started with a smaller sized turbo. The reason I am looking into all this is because my manifold cracked, and now I really want to get rid of it and start the buildup on my motor. If I do buy the sc32, what whp range is it efficent to?
Thats one of the problems, I already started with a smaller sized turbo. The reason I am looking into all this is because my manifold cracked, and now I really want to get rid of it and start the buildup on my motor. If I do buy the sc32, what whp range is it efficent to?
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All the precision turbos are the same cost so I would go with the sc61 if your going precision. Keep in mind if you go with a basic garret turbo you should do a few upgrades which raise the price.. First is the 360* bearing.. And maybe a 5 bolt turbine depending what manifold your running. @8-10 psi that sc61 will be very efficient on your setup.
Remember a year ago when the 60-1 was all the rage? I still love it and will never upgrade. This turbo will support 500whp easily, doesn't spool too soon which is nice for driving around town, hits extremely hard, and best of all can be bought brand new for $650.
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get the sc61... well for all that talk about your 60-1 which are good turbo's if they got a gt, but it looks like it didnt help out your times that is straight hanus a stock b16 will run quicker than that are you on a fmu? did you not have couplers and were loosing all your boost. there is a big problem you just cant be that bad of a driver.
good luck
get the sc61... well for all that talk about your 60-1 which are good turbo's if they got a gt, but it looks like it didnt help out your times that is straight hanus a stock b16 will run quicker than that are you on a fmu? did you not have couplers and were loosing all your boost. there is a big problem you just cant be that bad of a driver.
good luck
look at his trap speed... like to see a stock b16 pull that off haha, i'm guessing he had some traction problems, i have a 62-1 coming in for my h22a turbo project that im starting and im also in highschool, but if u have patience and dont have to have it all now then u can just get that turbo now and start to save up for everything u need and then 1 day just amaze everyone haha. thats what im doing
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If I do buy the sc32, what whp range is it efficent to? </TD></TR></TABLE>
Well know your comparing the sc61 to and sc32, those are competely different, if im not mistaken the sc32 is a 54 trim turbo, porbabaly smaller than what yuou currently have and smaller than what comes with most pre fab kits these days. Continue to research before you spend $700 on a turbo. Talk to Arturbo hell help you out.
Im running the sc34 57 trim stage 3 wheel, .63 a/r, It sees full boost around 4100, and stays strong untill redline. For reference on a buddies car, same turbo setup as me, but gsr motor/hondata/stock motor/10.5 psi made 295/212 with the
sc34
However if you do plan to build and get a lvoefab mani, then get the sc61, but just make sure you build a setup that works well together. The sc61 is a great turbo, but just make sure it gets put to use.
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Well know your comparing the sc61 to and sc32, those are competely different, if im not mistaken the sc32 is a 54 trim turbo, porbabaly smaller than what yuou currently have and smaller than what comes with most pre fab kits these days. Continue to research before you spend $700 on a turbo. Talk to Arturbo hell help you out.
Im running the sc34 57 trim stage 3 wheel, .63 a/r, It sees full boost around 4100, and stays strong untill redline. For reference on a buddies car, same turbo setup as me, but gsr motor/hondata/stock motor/10.5 psi made 295/212 with the
sc34
However if you do plan to build and get a lvoefab mani, then get the sc61, but just make sure you build a setup that works well together. The sc61 is a great turbo, but just make sure it gets put to use.
I have traction issues, had to launch in second because the car won't shift into second, and the car doesn't shift into 4th... I gained over 40mph from the 1/8th to the 1/4 once I got it in 4th, trust me, the power is there. Stoopid did 60-1 10 second 1/4 mile times a while back.
Anyway to each his own. I know I can spin tires from a roll on what more do you need? I already have more power on the street than I can get to the ground so why go any bigger, and more importantly why spend any more? Don't get me wrong, precision makes great turbos I'm not against them or anything, just don't see the reasoning behind it.
Anyway to each his own. I know I can spin tires from a roll on what more do you need? I already have more power on the street than I can get to the ground so why go any bigger, and more importantly why spend any more? Don't get me wrong, precision makes great turbos I'm not against them or anything, just don't see the reasoning behind it.
Would an SC61 be worth it for my GSR with Crower rods, 9:1 cr pistons ARP headstuds, 3mm headgasket, and block guard running .5 bar daily driven, and 1 bar on race days? Or should I go with a slightly smaller turbo if I'm not goin over the 1 bar point? Thanx
member "b18cx" on 8.5psi, SST manifold, STOCK gsr engine, SC61 ran an 11.41@116mph. He put down 320whp/234lb/ft(I think the tq was that)on the dyno. I think thats 'bout nuff said on whether or not the the SC61 is worth it
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hondata.
hondata.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tinker219 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">member "b18cx" on 8.5psi, SST manifold, STOCK gsr engine, SC61 ran an 11.41@116mph. He put down 320whp/234lb/ft(I think the tq was that)on the dyno. I think thats 'bout nuff said on whether or not the the SC61 is worth it
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and he's on Gator's Axles too
sorry, had to jack the post again lol
stan
</TD></TR></TABLE>and he's on Gator's Axles too

sorry, had to jack the post again lol
stan
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tinker219 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">member "b18cx" on 8.5psi, SST manifold, STOCK gsr engine, SC61 ran an 11.41@116mph. He put down 320whp/234lb/ft(I think the tq was that)on the dyno. I think thats 'bout nuff said on whether or not the the SC61 is worth it
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Are you SURE!??? Good god those are sick numbers at 8.5psi!!!!
</TD></TR></TABLE>Are you SURE!??? Good god those are sick numbers at 8.5psi!!!!




