picking up a ECU with a basemap setup ...

runnin stock d16y8 with a turbonetics 60-1 hifi 57trim

was curious of a safe PSI spring for the wastegate for that turbo tell i get a full tune

 

1,ooo,ooo!!!

 

That depends upon the basemap. 60-1 "HiFis" are 60 trim, not 57 trim. Not that it really matters.

 

... called turbonetics to get details on the turbo they told me 57 weird

 

0 really, a base map is just to check that the car runs and checks out and to get it to the tuner

 

NONE , its a basemap, its to get it running and a base to start with THATS IT ! By now you would think people would elarn this, its repeated on a weekly basis too Geez

 

Its called an honest mistake. People get their numbers jumbled sometimes when talking on the phone to hundreds of people a day..

 

Base map = BOOM ! Dont boost it at all ! Get it to a tuner . Base maps are just a starting point .

 

The tuner i have told me to get a 10psi spring and that most of his customer are happy with with basemap tunes and said if i wanted a full custom to it would cost X amount of dollars so on and so on .........so i was going to ride on the basemap for a month or so before i took it to him for a full custom tune since its a little pricy

 

Just do what you want and don't take our advice. I never believed in "base maps" to begin with.

 

There is no tune in your future. I'll bet my next 5 paychecks that it will never happen. And if you're talking to a real "tuner" then the basemap he whips up should take care of all your concerns. I think you're trying to squeeze as much power out of this chip as you can and convince yourself that it's safe so you're asking us so you can tell you're tuner what to put on the basemap.

 

Actually I made this thread to figure out what spring to order ..as for the money I have it in my hand for the tune..i live 2hrs away from tuner and work 55-60hrs a week so its hard yo get there and I know I'm going to b tempted to mash the gas in the mean time ...as for the tuner its Mr Vega from phearble.net

 

Just cruise on the map till you get tuned. Then give it all hell

 

You base the spring on the amount of power you're trying to make with the turbocharger that you're given. Based upon the pressure ratio in conjunction with the area of the efficiency map (as a start) , you then order a spring about 40% of what your maximum pressure would likely be. Be prepared to use a boost controller and possibly switch springs if your experience unstable boost.

So. telling us turbocharger you're trying to use and we can help that way.

 

This is the useful Info I'm looking for ... I'm a vw guy and new to Hondas ....with vw I was able to switch boost pressure and fuel maps on the fly and the ecu compensates....so not really the same with a basic Honda setup

 

It's the same with Hondas
Your tuner will tune the car to let's say 15lbs of boost. From there you can run anything under 15lbs

 

Exactly. The purpose of the correct spring is to use the right range of boost pressures to deliver consistent boost. Not just ONE spring for EACH boost pressure level. that's insane

 

That's a quick indication to find another tuner in your area. That's just really really bad advice.

I wouldn't run any boost until tuned; remove the charge pipe and drive NA. At the very least, if you do boost before a tune, you'll just screw up a stock engine and not one that has $5k, $10k or even $20k invested into it.

 

Didn't see where you mentioned a spring anywhere in your first post. Again, your tuner should have been able to tel you all of this.

 

Find a new tuner... anyone who says just run xxx spring and youll be happy doesnt know ****.... boost levels don't dictate power... you run enough boost to make the power you want.

And your base map should never be beaten on... I bet you're out there doing WOT pulls down the highway and other ****... you can wash out rings from running too rich and actually cause higher EGTs which can damage things

And the timing is just a safe number to get your car to a tuner, not drive it like a fanboy....

YOU WILL BREAK YOUR MOTOR DRIVING AROUND FOR ANY LENGTH OF TIME ON A BASEMAP.... THEY ARE FOR INITIAL STARTUP, CHECKING THE MOTOR AND DRIVING IT TO A REAL TUNER.

 

Your missing the point .... guess pherable hasn't a clue what they are doing

 

He does... but you can't guess what power you'll make at xx psi until you tune it....

And you cannot run a car safely on a base map.... its strictly to get the car to a tuner and establish that the motor runs, has good oil pressure etc.

So you're missing the point, unless pherable is tuning your car or you have some pre-tuned chip that ISNT A BASEMAP you're on borrowed time... no one here is going to tell you its ok to run around boosting on a basemap..., IT WONT WORK

 

Agreed forget the spring and trying to boost go get it tuned that will answer ur question

 

unless you have a wideband and some kind of logger to read ignition timing as well as the knowledge of when to let off, you dont boost on a basemap.

 

He just wants someone to tell him it's OK, just like 98% of the people that post questions here