no bull

does anybody think its possible to run 12's with a $3500 buget ? thats including buying the car. i am planning to atemp this challange. if you think you could post how you would do it

HiProfile

$500 EF
$1000 built sohc (less if you use vitara pistons)
$1500 good turbo kit
$500 electronics/tuning
Get just the 'basics' first, like avoiding Hondata gaskets, ignition systems, cam gear(s), etc

If you have $3500 and not a penny more, I'd suggest you wait longer or find a cheaper hobby. If you do this, but haven't done it multiple times before, you're going to spend a lot more when (not if) you break a part. If every pro racing team used their entire budget on the initial build, they'd be **** out of luck if *anything* happened. Not trying to be a jerk, just realistic. But certainly 12's are attainable with $3500.

blackeg

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yeah...my motor alone costs well over 3500, not including any turbo stuff, car itself, suspension blablablah.

its not cheap. if u can do it for 3500, which is possible, reliability might be questionable. expect something to break, thats just the nature of the beast. have extra money somewhere to fix it, or the car will very quickly become a lawn ornament.


overall, good luck. it is possible, and will feel real good if and when you pull it off

RC000E

There are plenty of alternative approaches as well. You can find cheap hatches from the 92-95 era pretty commonly anymore. I also come across Bseries motors and trannies cheap just by doing some online searching. If you know what your doing, there's no question it can be done.

welfarepc

maybe you can get really lucky and find one of those D16z6's thats impossible to blow up! lol.... someone once said "trade your soul for an indistructable D series"

haha

anyways i did the $500 ef build... spent about $400 on the turbo kit (all used, all junk yard baby) and about $400 on exhaust and other misc things to complete the build (engine management, wideband...)

so at $1300 i have a turbo d15b2 with fully tuneable standalone ECU. only shitty part is its obd0

with the extra $2200...
B swap or a built D16z6... $700-$1400
OBD1 swap
professional dyno tuning
some slicks and nice weather and your rockin 12's

tony413

if your looking to buy the car with the budget you then im honestly going to say no unless you run a 75 shot or bigger and have a decent suspension. i lucked out an got my shell for $50 so the only money i spent was ALL upgrades

93supercoupe

I have a straight CRX SI shell sitting in my yard that I WILL GIVE U, so it can be all upgrades from there.

Just think, putting the seatbelts back in will be an upgrade to this car,lol.

U can find chassis's and engines dirt cheap, u just have to be patient.The bests cars to buy are the aborted project cars b/c they usually come with parts and engines.

posHonda

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by welfarepc &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">maybe you can get really lucky and find one of those D16z6's thats impossible to blow up! lol.... someone once said "trade your soul for an indistructable D series"

haha

anyways i did the $500 ef build... spent about $400 on the turbo kit (all used, all junk yard baby) and about $400 on exhaust and other misc things to complete the build (engine management, wideband...)

so at $1300 i have a turbo d15b2 with fully tuneable standalone ECU. only shitty part is its obd0

with the extra $2200...
B swap or a built D16z6... $700-$1400
OBD1 swap
professional dyno tuning
some slicks and nice weather and your rockin 12's</TD></TR></TABLE>

lol your exhaust cost as much as your entire turbo setup

90dxhmt

iTrader: (1)

88-91 EF those are plentiful for $500
B18A cable swap and ebay mounts $1000
Cheap basic turbo setup $1000
Poly bushing kit,traction bars,Rywire harness and slicks $1000
There you have a easy reliable 12 second car

Dr. D-Series

Is this a serious question ?
Granted I havent run 12's yet. But 13.004.

500 running 90 std.
Gutted without cutting.
d15 stock holset @ 11 psi non intercooled.
arp headstuds 80 bucks.
200 dollar traction bars.
23 inch used slicks for 80 bucks.
5 spd trans 50 bucks.
Chipped ecu 100 bucks. Not tuned.
That gets you 13.004.

A bit over a grand for me so far.

ATYPR

done it a few times

EF $0-500
gutted $free
b16 swap $1600 with mounts
nitrous kit $500
255 pump $150
used slicks $500
miscellaneous $250??

12.7-12.9 with a 75 shot

fmfkid250

My ls turbo setup 3 years ago went 11.87 on BFG's for under 3000

nonvtecallmotor

Its fairly easy to go that fast on a budget now a days.

BonerBen went 10.4 @ 142 on about $3500 including the car.

da_dude

Two BIG bottle of NOS. Haha.

tony413

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Just think, putting the seatbelts back in will be an upgrade to this car,lol.

U can find chassis's and engines dirt cheap, u just have to be patient.The bests cars to buy are the aborted project cars b/c they usually come with parts and engines.</TD></TR></TABLE>

lol i'll take it off you hands

turbociv910

900- 91 da w/b16 with j1 tranny
gt35r- free, came off race car, good cond
IC piping, free, came off multiple dsms
intercooler, free, came off 1g awd
450 injectors, free, came off 1g awd
ssas mani, 125, bracing, free my me.
turbo concepts wastegate, 200
3" exhaust, 50 for materials.
vafc 2, 200 used
9500 rpm limiter chip, ebay, cheap. forgot.
act2100, 350.


1900?.. im to lazy to add up


car now has arp head studs and block guard:

made 385 on 19 psi( had a meth kit then, had to give back to race car )

on 8psi ran 13.1 @ 105 street tires.





licens plate is all Z;z.. sleeper

N20civicB18

2 years back I stuck a GSR in my coupe, put a GT35R on it with 10lbs of boost and 1000cc injectors and went 12.2@125

97grnrs

stock a6 motor.. ebay turbo kit ( 800 or so total) ran a 12.7 last season.. then i sold car.. daily driven.. in a crx

Hotori Hanso

iTrader: (1)

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gt35r- free, came off race car, good cond
IC piping, free, came off multiple dsms
intercooler, free, came off 1g awd
450 injectors, free, came off 1g awd
ssas mani, 125, bracing, free my me.
turbo concepts wastegate, 200
3" exhaust, 50 for materials.
vafc 2, 200 used
9500 rpm limiter chip, ebay, cheap. forgot.
act2100, 350.


1900?.. im to lazy to add up
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so if you get everything for free you can make it on that budget easy.

quicksilver1689

you can run low 11's with a d-series vitara build for cheap, will it last forever, most likely not, its usually a compromise of putting a good amount of timing in the motor to get good power, and the fact that d-series dont tolerate excessive timing specially with vitaras.

turbociv910

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so if you get everything for free you can make it on that budget easy.</TD></TR></TABLE>

are you hating or stating?

joshfish79

if you start out like i did it should be possible. running 90 crx si with b16a swap. $200. then find a complete turbo setup used.

no bull

i just found a crx with a b16 for $2000 i am going to buy. i am going to spend $1500 on the turbo kit and tuning

ghostofnyc

iTrader: (3)

easy ef or da $500 fuel pump$100, fpr $60, spark plugs $15, ebay intake $50, ebay header $150, gutted cat free, muffler shop crush bent exhaust $200, wet n20 kit $500 and you have yourself a 12 sec car with change

UrVtecIsLoud

Gutted EF with stock b18b swap-$2000
ebay turbo kit-$700
slicks-$300
on 25 psi-12 sec run
Feeling in your stomach after it blows up-priceless