Ram Horn Vs XXXX how well does it flow?
12-29-2005, 08:45 AM
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Ram Horn Vs XXXX how well does it flow?
Im looking at the one-Fab Type ONE manifold. its not your conventional manifold, but looks damn nice!
how well does it flow compared to the Ram Horn style? any boost spike problems etc?
how well does it flow compared to the Ram Horn style? any boost spike problems etc?
12-29-2005, 08:51 AM
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Re: Ram Horn Vs XXXX how well does it flow? (Mr. Vapor)
if you go to full race.com they have a video of i think ramhorn vs. some other manifold. 
12-29-2005, 09:51 AM
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Re: Ram Horn Vs XXXX how well does it flow? (Mr. Vapor)
that was vs a log manifold. Apples to oranges.
IMO a well built and thought out EQ Length manifold should see not much difference from one to the other.
The Ram Horn is a tried and proven style.
IMO a well built and thought out EQ Length manifold should see not much difference from one to the other.
The Ram Horn is a tried and proven style.
12-29-2005, 10:18 AM
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Re: Ram Horn Vs XXXX how well does it flow? (PM-Performance)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PM-Performance »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that was vs a log manifold. Apples to oranges.
IMO a well built and thought out EQ Length manifold should see not much difference from one to the other.
The Ram Horn is a tried and proven style. </TD></TR></TABLE>
.....but the ram horn style is not a true equal length.
IMO a well built and thought out EQ Length manifold should see not much difference from one to the other.
The Ram Horn is a tried and proven style. </TD></TR></TABLE>
.....but the ram horn style is not a true equal length.
12-29-2005, 10:25 AM
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Re: Ram Horn Vs XXXX how well does it flow? (PM-Performance)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PM-Performance »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">close enuff. lol</TD></TR></TABLE>
My understanding is that the true advantage of the ramhorn style is in the collector.
My understanding is that the true advantage of the ramhorn style is in the collector.
12-29-2005, 11:01 AM
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Re: Ram Horn Vs XXXX how well does it flow? (RyanCivic2000)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RyanCivic2000 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
My understanding is that the true advantage of the ramhorn style is in the collector.</TD></TR></TABLE>
If done correctly.
My understanding is that the true advantage of the ramhorn style is in the collector.</TD></TR></TABLE>
If done correctly.
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12-29-2005, 01:48 PM
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Yeah I wanna see a dyno between the two manifolds or hear any opinions on why you prefer one over the other. I like both of them allot, but I would hafta say I like the look of the One-Fab better, plus you don't see it as much...
Gimmie pros/cons
?
Gimmie pros/cons
?
12-29-2005, 01:52 PM
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I'm sure someone would be able todo a comparison for the oh so eager Honda-Tech community given people would be willing to donate money. It seems when Geoff at Full Race and Jeff Evans do tests a lot of people on here are not happy with the results due to who did the testing.
12-29-2005, 02:43 PM
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Re: (0x64)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 0x64 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm sure someone would be able todo a comparison for the oh so eager Honda-Tech community given people would be willing to donate money. It seems when Geoff at Full Race and Jeff Evans do tests a lot of people on here are not happy with the results due to who did the testing.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Perfect. Everyone send a money order for $50 to me.
Perfect. Everyone send a money order for $50 to me.
12-29-2005, 02:47 PM
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Re: (RyanCivic2000)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RyanCivic2000 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Perfect. Everyone send a money order for $50 to me.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You know how it goes. SOHC guys not allowed
Perfect. Everyone send a money order for $50 to me.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You know how it goes. SOHC guys not allowed
12-29-2005, 03:29 PM
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Re: (D@nnY)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by D@nnY »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i made 654 on that one fab with ac and a2.5 inch downpiep..im sure it flows fine</TD></TR></TABLE>
wow impressive! whats your set up?
wow impressive! whats your set up?
12-30-2005, 06:56 AM
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Re: (0x64)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 0x64 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
You know how it goes. SOHC guys not allowed </TD></TR></TABLE>
Pfffft!
You guys could always donate a turbo kit for the S2000.
You know how it goes. SOHC guys not allowed
</TD></TR></TABLE>Pfffft!
You guys could always donate a turbo kit for the S2000.
12-30-2005, 12:01 PM
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Re: (clean rice)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by clean rice »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah I wanna see a dyno between the two manifolds or hear any opinions on why you prefer one over the other. I like both of them allot, but I would hafta say I like the look of the One-Fab better, plus you don't see it as much...
Gimmie pros/cons ?</TD></TR></TABLE>
that one-fad mani can be made to retain ac/ps and pump out 600+ on a b16!!!
full-race products are superior due to the robotic welds
but all-in-all everyones products work great... it depends on who you feel comfortable buying from and how much you want to spend for something you like/want...
Gimmie pros/cons
?</TD></TR></TABLE>that one-fad mani can be made to retain ac/ps
and pump out 600+ on a b16!!! full-race products are superior due to the robotic welds
but all-in-all everyones products work great... it depends on who you feel comfortable buying from and how much you want to spend for something you like/want...
12-30-2005, 01:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RyanCivic2000 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Pfffft!
You guys could always donate a turbo kit for the S2000. </TD></TR></TABLE>
as long as you update your sig to reflect the change of heart
Pfffft!
You guys could always donate a turbo kit for the S2000.
</TD></TR></TABLE>as long as you update your sig to reflect the change of heart
12-30-2005, 03:55 PM
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it's on whatever you like. i think i wanna go with a ram horn manifold next or another top mount. hey i think ssac makes that one fab manifold now j/p
j/p
12-30-2005, 04:05 PM
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Re: (undercoverdc2)
exactly
ramhorn's primaries 1 and 4 are more than 5 inches shorter than primaries 2 and 3
But true equal length isnt exactly necessary, as many have proven on manifolds such as the mini me/elf can produce 600+ hp and these manifolds are very far off of equal lenght.
Basically as long as the exhaust pulses dont merge in the collector at the same time, you are pretty much ok.
ramhorn's primaries 1 and 4 are more than 5 inches shorter than primaries 2 and 3
But true equal length isnt exactly necessary, as many have proven on manifolds such as the mini me/elf can produce 600+ hp and these manifolds are very far off of equal lenght.
Basically as long as the exhaust pulses dont merge in the collector at the same time, you are pretty much ok.
12-31-2005, 10:30 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92cxturbo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I wish I had my one-fab minifold! I ordered it on 8/2 and still have seen it. I sure hope its worth the wait.</TD></TR></TABLE>
im sure its in the works...
im sure its in the works...
12-31-2005, 10:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92cxturbo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I wish I had my one-fab minifold! I ordered it on 8/2 and still have seen it. I sure hope its worth the wait.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Damn buddy!!!!! tomorrow that will be 5 months that you have been waiting
Damn buddy!!!!! tomorrow that will be 5 months that you have been waiting
12-31-2005, 10:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JG-Fab »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ramhorn's primaries 1 and 4 are more than 5 inches shorter than primaries 2 and 3</TD></TR></TABLE>
Which doesn't mean anything, anyway. Like saying, "the sky is blue, and I like to eat fish."
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JG-Fab »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Basically as long as the exhaust pulses dont merge in the collector at the same time, you are pretty much ok.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Which also doesn't mean anything, because of overlapping exhaust events.
Furthermore, substantially constant pressure collector designs have fuckall to do with exhaust pulses, aside from the fact that a pulse bouncing off the turbine wheel is always going to foul out an adjacent cylinder, period. You can't tune that out of a substantially constant pressure system, although the better performing ones use long runners and larger primaries to mute the pulses... but due to the complexity of the system, longer primaries still != better.
Which doesn't mean anything, anyway. Like saying, "the sky is blue, and I like to eat fish."
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JG-Fab »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Basically as long as the exhaust pulses dont merge in the collector at the same time, you are pretty much ok.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Which also doesn't mean anything, because of overlapping exhaust events.
Furthermore, substantially constant pressure collector designs have fuckall to do with exhaust pulses, aside from the fact that a pulse bouncing off the turbine wheel is always going to foul out an adjacent cylinder, period. You can't tune that out of a substantially constant pressure system, although the better performing ones use long runners and larger primaries to mute the pulses... but due to the complexity of the system, longer primaries still != better.