JDMs1eeper

Did crower change the way they make their Honda/Acura LS/RS camshaft's?

Well I just received my Crower 62402T-2 (sage 2 turbo nonvtec) cams. I baught them from some1, not a dealer for crower. They came in a Crower box with the following stamp on the side of the box:

Acura 1.8 RS/LS DOHC TURBO CAMSHAFT (PRICE PER PAIR)
62402T-2

The cam's look brand new, but unlike the last set I had. They do NOT have the crower logo stamped on either. Did they stop stamping the logo into the camshaft?

Exhaust Cam:
Only thing I can see is a (C) that is stamped (extended out in the mold) and says "5" stamped by the (C). further down it says R5 and then says 75, "EX"

Intake Cam:
Only thing I can see is a (C) that is stamped (extended out in the mold) and says "7" stamped by the (C). further down it says R1 and then says 75, "EX"


Also on my old set I used to have the part number ingraved into the tip of the cam. These do not.

The cam's are spotless and apear to be "brand new" but I dont see any of the old signature marks as my old set. I didnt know if they changed the way they make them or if maybe, I got ripped off.

My old set were 402 NA stage2 from year 2002/3 I believe.

I wish i had a digital camera to show but I dont. Hopefully I can get a friend to take some pics tomorrow.

non-VTEC

take some pic and email them to crower to find out.

they did recently change their part numbers and are apparently using different cores now so they might have different engravings for their part numbers and stuff....

S@nt0s

IDK....call crower thats what i would do..

my 404's have crower onteh shaft adn thent eh cam #'s at the end etched in.....\\


BUMP for answers

Squirtle

I got mine a few months ago and they still have the crower logo on them.

JDMs1eeper

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by non-VTEC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">take some pic and email them to crower to find out.

they did recently change their part numbers and are apparently using different cores now so they might have different engravings for their part numbers and stuff....</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Snoflake &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">IDK....call crower thats what i would do..

my 404's have crower onteh shaft adn thent eh cam #'s at the end etched in.....\\


BUMP for answers</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, I'll be calling crower asap. They arnt open on weekends (according to site) so just lookin for answers to my Q's online. Hopefully I'll find out soon. Thanks for the reply's guys

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Squirtle &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I got mine a few months ago and they still have the crower logo on them. </TD></TR></TABLE>

ok, thats what i am affraid of. I used to have a set and these do not share the same markings. ix (ingraved CROWER & imprented part number on the tip of the cam) But from eye balling they look brand new/ un used.

I'll prolly buy a tool to measure the lift & see if it matches up.

keep'em commin if you can help. thanks

Squirtle

Maybe this will help only pics I've got.


They got the crower logo on them and the numbers ingraved at the end of the cams.

JDMs1eeper

weird, looking at yours and mine. Your intake and exuast cams are complete opposite. Did you mix your cams up? or is it prolly just the way mine are? haha..
:EDIT: nvm, yours are mixed up.


Does you cams have any markings like the ones Ive listed tho? besides the crower inprents?

BTW, thanks for posten the pics.

JDMs1eeper

My friend Chris (King Tut33) just went and looked at his stock LS cams.

above IN and EX, his do not say "75" like mine do. just a blank space.

His say:

One says In, R1 and G in castings along the cam
Other is Ex, R3 and H

so they dont match what i have. I'm leaveing to go by my friends to eye ball a stock set since i sold my stock LS cams w/ the old motor. I'll post what i find.

(Thanks for all the replys and Help guys!)

King Tut33

Yeah it sounds to me like they are actually B18a/b OEM cams from one of the gazillion years they were produced. I can't see why an aftermarket company would put castings similar to OEM and since no one with Crowers has said that they don't say Crower on them anywhere almost confirms it.

Squirtle

Yeah they were just mocked up, didn't even notice they were in the wrong way.

JDMs1eeper

Ok i'm back. From looking at his 3 sets he had available. None say 75 above the IN & EX. But other than that, they look like brand new OEM cams. I'm leaning towards i got ripped

I'll buy a gauge tomorrow to messesure the lift... but I dont think i'll find anything we havent already seen. They might end up being oems...

Thanks for all the quick replys guys

rhd

get a v-block and dial indicator to measure lift

JDMs1eeper

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Thanks, I will do that

King Tut33

So what were the results?

JDMs1eeper

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by King Tut33 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So what were the results?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm takeing them into the shop wednesday when i have class. I'll be able to measure then

alpha

Do you have pictures of them?

JDMs1eeper

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 0x64 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Do you have pictures of them?</TD></TR></TABLE>

No pics, I need to quit spending so much on my motor and get a digital camera, cell phone and a hair cut

I'll try to get some soon tho.

alpha

hahaha

I contacted someone I use to talk to at Crower about this. Will see.

JDMs1eeper

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 0x64 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hahaha

I contacted someone I use to talk to at Crower about this. Will see.</TD></TR></TABLE>

awesome, thanks. He say anything about it? I'm getting pics tomorrow

JDMs1eeper

just got home from work. take'n pics right now

JDMs1eeper

Ok, I have like "60" pics so let me know "what" and "where" you need to see these cams, if needed. Here are some for starters...

non-VTEC

those are not crower cams.......those are OEM cams.

JDMs1eeper

Here are some exhaust cam pictures. includes top to bottom pics of marks

non-VTEC

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by non-VTEC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">those are not crower cams.......those are OEM cams.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i have a set of OEM non-vtec cams sitting in my garage......i will try to get you pictures of them if you want to show you their identical.......

crower cams have a very distinctive finish and machining on them. plus they say crower right on them.

JDMs1eeper

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by non-VTEC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">those are not crower cams.......those are OEM cams.</TD></TR></TABLE>

so i shouldnt waste time hosting/posting intake cam pics? Ive been ripped