powder coating an intercooler
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 96GSRkId »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ive seen tons of powdercoated intercoolers...and they all were fine...looks damn cool i might add.. check out full-races website they have a civic si with a black intercooler...looks o so badass</TD></TR></TABLE>
Most all the intercoolers that you see that are black are either painted or annodized. Full-Race offers there intercoolers annodized. it really isnt that much to do it I think under 200 for a pretty big intercooler so check with them or somewere local to you and see about getting annodized.
Most all the intercoolers that you see that are black are either painted or annodized. Full-Race offers there intercoolers annodized. it really isnt that much to do it I think under 200 for a pretty big intercooler so check with them or somewere local to you and see about getting annodized.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Quad-Damge »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Rattle Can High Temp Heat, Has been working fine for me and tons of my firends
paint it black, sleeper</TD></TR></TABLE>
High temp is heat resistant though, you want some kind of radiator spray that is heat conductive. True, it may be working, but it could probably be working better.
-PHiZ
paint it black, sleeper</TD></TR></TABLE>
High temp is heat resistant though, you want some kind of radiator spray that is heat conductive. True, it may be working, but it could probably be working better.
-PHiZ
all you guys saying that it didnt seem to change anything really need to get an intake temp gauge...you will see a huge diffrence...the point of and intercooler is to transfer the inside air temp to the outside and allow the moving air to take that heat away...if you paint with something other then a coating designed to transfer heat you will keep all of your hot air from the turbo inside the intake track...and you might as well have no intercooler
i think its johnnyracer who makes an anodized black IC.. thats what i plan to get when the time comes.. but i dont think spraying an IC will affect it, if it does i dont think it would be something noticeable..
lol...to bad you dont run aem or any type of standalone to see how stupid you are making yourself look...I have tested the **** buddy....lol
wish you guys would post on other boards...where people know what they are talking about and would rip you a new one for even thinking of spraypainting your intercooler...lol
They make a spray paint for $75 a can which will not inhibit the transfer of heat...however...I guess if you like the spray paint ghetto look and the less effective intercooler..and the more detonation...be my guest
PS this is my buddys accout...none of this is beaing said by hondaboy116
sorry i havent been doing this for the last 6 years and i dont know what i'm doing
wish you guys would post on other boards...where people know what they are talking about and would rip you a new one for even thinking of spraypainting your intercooler...lol
They make a spray paint for $75 a can which will not inhibit the transfer of heat...however...I guess if you like the spray paint ghetto look and the less effective intercooler..and the more detonation...be my guest
PS this is my buddys accout...none of this is beaing said by hondaboy116
sorry i havent been doing this for the last 6 years and i dont know what i'm doing
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sorry i havent been doing this for the last 6 years and i dont know what i'm doing</TD></TR></TABLE>
I guess not. I frequent Nasioc, and SupraForums besides this forum, and it really isn't a big deal. Calm down. There is no way in hell I'd drive around a Honda with a bling bling intercooler in the front and expect it to not get stolen with the quickness.
Anyway, since you are such a tuning genious, and have all this datalogged temperature information from your standalone wizardry...
either put up, or shut up. Period.
Also, this better be a big difference.
I await your knowledge, oh wise one who has been at this all of 6 years and thinks that's a long time.
sorry i havent been doing this for the last 6 years and i dont know what i'm doing</TD></TR></TABLE>
I guess not. I frequent Nasioc, and SupraForums besides this forum, and it really isn't a big deal. Calm down. There is no way in hell I'd drive around a Honda with a bling bling intercooler in the front and expect it to not get stolen with the quickness.
Anyway, since you are such a tuning genious, and have all this datalogged temperature information from your standalone wizardry...
either put up, or shut up. Period.
Also, this better be a big difference.
I await your knowledge, oh wise one who has been at this all of 6 years and thinks that's a long time.
Here was a great link on this, with a bunch of useful information, but it seems they locked the forum, and didn't archive anything???
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=455963
-PHiZ
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=455963
-PHiZ
i got two Abby Road Company intercoolers off a z32 clip...and we painted one with wall-mart black automotive paint...I changed nothing between the two, I would post the results but i'm sure that you do not have the aem software to look at them...so i will post what air temps were
ARC unpainted 22psi 50trim turbo, pump gass 22-24 degrees total timming, ambient temp was 78 degrees 11am
1st run 0-140mph ended up getting a maxx air temp of 155 degrees at the throttle bodie
2nd run 0-100mph...no wait time between saw 176maxx temp
ARC painted same everything ambient temp was actually 77-78 temp sensor could decide..this was 3 hours later 2pm
1st run 0-140mph maxx air temp 166...not that big of a diffrence you say
2nd run 0-100mph 192 maxx air temp...what i monitored was that the intercooler retained the heat
FYI 140mph i'm at 7k in 4th gear...I rev to 9k
I'll send the data to anyone who has the aem software...Hopefully my dsl will be online this evening and i can snap some shots of my laptop , so people without aem can see what i'm talking about
So if you are a one time boost junkie then you can probably get away with painting, but if you run auto-x or hill climbs or any type of road racing you are not going to be a happy camper
I do understand about honda's getting jacked becasue they have a FMIC...I'm from portland...why not purchase some mesh and cover that **** up???
oh and my knock sesor voltage was up .4...which is a big amount seeing you have a range from 0-4.5
ARC unpainted 22psi 50trim turbo, pump gass 22-24 degrees total timming, ambient temp was 78 degrees 11am
1st run 0-140mph ended up getting a maxx air temp of 155 degrees at the throttle bodie
2nd run 0-100mph...no wait time between saw 176maxx temp
ARC painted same everything ambient temp was actually 77-78 temp sensor could decide..this was 3 hours later 2pm
1st run 0-140mph maxx air temp 166...not that big of a diffrence you say
2nd run 0-100mph 192 maxx air temp...what i monitored was that the intercooler retained the heat
FYI 140mph i'm at 7k in 4th gear...I rev to 9k
I'll send the data to anyone who has the aem software...Hopefully my dsl will be online this evening and i can snap some shots of my laptop , so people without aem can see what i'm talking about
So if you are a one time boost junkie then you can probably get away with painting, but if you run auto-x or hill climbs or any type of road racing you are not going to be a happy camper
I do understand about honda's getting jacked becasue they have a FMIC...I'm from portland...why not purchase some mesh and cover that **** up???
oh and my knock sesor voltage was up .4...which is a big amount seeing you have a range from 0-4.5
I used to be a Supra Forums member....until it got over filled with stupid *** kids who know nothing and arge everything...and Trent from MVP going **** on everyone....I'm actually thinking of selling my popra becasue every dumb-*** kid has one...and i have been building motors and tuning standalones and everything else for the last 6 years...I know its not a long time, but its longer then most the members on this board have been driving
Anyway, since you are such a tuning genious, and have all this datalogged temperature information from your standalone wizardry...
how many standalones have you tuned? How many turbo setups have you built? How many engines have you built.....dont be a smart *** unless have done the testing....
and most of the kids running turbosetups arnt running quality intercoolers like ARC...so you will have even more drastic results
Please enlighten me with your infinate wisdom, about these test's you have conducted on this subject.....
Anyway, since you are such a tuning genious, and have all this datalogged temperature information from your standalone wizardry...
how many standalones have you tuned? How many turbo setups have you built? How many engines have you built.....dont be a smart *** unless have done the testing....
and most of the kids running turbosetups arnt running quality intercoolers like ARC...so you will have even more drastic results
Please enlighten me with your infinate wisdom, about these test's you have conducted on this subject.....
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tactic$ »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do not powder coat your intercooler..... powder is an insulator of heat.
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was thinking the same. anodizing wont hold in heat.
</TD></TR></TABLE>was thinking the same. anodizing wont hold in heat.
O.K. so the difference really isn't that big at all. On a moving Honda running at a more efficient pressure level, on a compressor trim designed for it, the air won't be heated up as much anyway.
Also, you may be confusing "painting" with "lightly spritzing the fins" with black to take the shine away.
I'll take the minimal temp loss for peace of mind. (Doesn't matter anymore as neither me or my brother own Hondas)
I applaud you for actually backing up your argument with facts. Something that is rarely done around here. Unfortunately, for a street Honda, I don't think it would deter me from taking the shine away.
As for SupraForums being filled to the brim with idiots. There has never been a truer statement made.
I'm also going to try and keep this from turning into a dick swinging contest, suffice to say I've been helping my father work on his Studebakers since I could get tools and hold a light steady.
Also, you may be confusing "painting" with "lightly spritzing the fins" with black to take the shine away.
I'll take the minimal temp loss for peace of mind. (Doesn't matter anymore as neither me or my brother own Hondas)
I applaud you for actually backing up your argument with facts. Something that is rarely done around here. Unfortunately, for a street Honda, I don't think it would deter me from taking the shine away.
As for SupraForums being filled to the brim with idiots. There has never been a truer statement made.
I'm also going to try and keep this from turning into a dick swinging contest, suffice to say I've been helping my father work on his Studebakers since I could get tools and hold a light steady.
I will admit, that i was under the impression your were refering to painting the intercooler...i put a thin even coat on the ARC intercooler...and tested...the brisk tint is a good idea...and most people doing this to their intercoolers are probably not all that worried anyways...I mean i havent seen iny 400+hp hondas running with colored intercoolers...people with higher hp cars "generally" dont daily drive their cars, and dont have to worry as much......thats why i love my toyotas...they just dont seem to het jacked as much.......
as for working with your dad, i think that is great and wonderful, be greatful you had the oppratunity, I never knew mine...i picked up cars myself....
as for working with your dad, i think that is great and wonderful, be greatful you had the oppratunity, I never knew mine...i picked up cars myself....
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