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Old 03-31-2005, 02:04 AM
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Alright...I was testing my car last night after my friend and I swaped my slave cylinder...and while I was doin a 4th gear pull on the freeway at about 120...it just died out. No CEL...no oil light...nothing. Slow down and try starting it again...the starter just cranks and there are little putts out the exhaust. The motor doesn't even shake. Tried push starting...nothing. Check the timing belt...fine. Check the spark plug wires...fine. Check the rotor...fine. Still gettin fuel. Checked number 1, 2, and 3 spark plugs...no oil. Checked the dipstick...no contamination. Checked all my connections...nothing loose. We re-spliced the wires for my MAF sensor on the ECU harness to un-bypass the MAF...didn't help. We are at a loss for what it could be.

It's a D16Z6 w/ a custom turbo kit.
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ICM might have said adios
Old 03-31-2005, 05:51 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondaguyef &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ICM might have said adios</TD></TR></TABLE>

probably
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.....need a new engine....i might know someone
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Benjithx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">.....need a new engine....i might know someone </TD></TR></TABLE>

I have a a complete swap in my friend's garage...but thanx for lookin out.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondaguyef &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ICM might have said adios</TD></TR></TABLE>

Alright...I'll see if I can get my spare dizzy back to swap that out and check.
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Would I still get spark even though the ICM is out?
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replace the MAF with a MAP sensor
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bad coil maybe
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Switched dizzys...no change

Any other ideas?...goin to do a compression test later tonight...see if that tells anything. My friend thinks it might be a spun bearing...anyone agree with this?
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if the motor is turning over a bearing is not the reason it wont start.
so basically u have fuel, u have spark, the only thing left is compression...
id hate to say it but it kinda sounds like u may have dropped a valve. have u pulled the spark plugs yet?
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cylinder #4 didn't looks really good........the spark plug electrode where you usually gap it...its gapless now i may say.....as if something was smackin it hard like a drop valve like 99b16si stated
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it probably melted....the compresion on that cylinder is probably fucked but it should start on 3 if the others are fine...get a compresion gauge and check it out..plan on the motor being fucked
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The pictures say it all.
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that plug is fucked.. odd that there is no gap but doesn't look like any chunks of metal were bouncing around..

what are you using for management?
was it tuned?
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Ur motor is deff blown then. Either a valve dropped and it was bouncing around in there or part of the piston/ring did. Somethin got in there and damaged the engine. Either way u need to pull it.
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I'm using a blue box right now. I was goin to tune...but I've had money issues this month and couldn't do it.

Hopefully the car will be up next week.

Here are links to bigger pics:

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Sounds exactly what my brother did to his car(D16Z6). The electrode on the spark plug in cylinder #4 was gone though. His car was getting fuel spark then we did a compression test which is when we pulled the plugs and it had next to no compression in two of the cylinders.

Never took the motor apart to see what exactly happened but the pistons were rather oddly shaped just by looking at it. Anyways good luck.

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I just talked with a friend of mine...he said I more than likely detonated. Possible cause...bad gas. Pay $2.70/g and the **** still blew...wack
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by H23 EG Hybrid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just talked with a friend of mine...he said I more than likely detonated. Possible cause...bad gas. Pay $2.70/g and the **** still blew...wack</TD></TR></TABLE>

Or not tuned doing a freeway pull in 4th?

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ImportHatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Or not tuned doing a freeway pull in 4th?

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I've been driving this setup for over 2 months straight no problems...I think it was bad gas. It was the first time I really got on it for that tank because I was driving a slipping clutch for 2 weeks. The clutch was still slipping after we changed the slave cylinder...but not as bad as before
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