--Poll-- Low boost, low budget fuel managment options --Poll--
11-04-2003, 08:22 AM
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--Poll-- Low boost, low budget fuel managment options --Poll--
Alright guys, i want everyones vote on which setup to go with...... i havent made up my mind so im going with a lifeline.
These are low boost options--- 7-10psi daily driven... This is going on my crx with a zc.....
These are low boost options--- 7-10psi daily driven... This is going on my crx with a zc.....
11-04-2003, 12:02 PM
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Re: --Poll-- Low boost, low budget fuel managment options --Poll-- (sloorex)
isn't the SMC better than the AFC, or the exactly the same except for the screen? Do you tune both of them the same way?
11-04-2003, 12:12 PM
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If you're going to get a computer, then just get the SAFC.
If you really want to go cheap, go FMU.
Neither of these setups is optimal, obviously.
VAFC and SAFC are interchangable, the VAFC just controls MAD VTEK yO.
If you really want to go cheap, go FMU.
Neither of these setups is optimal, obviously.
VAFC and SAFC are interchangable, the VAFC just controls MAD VTEK yO.
11-04-2003, 01:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by scatuli »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">UBERDATA cheap and good</TD></TR></TABLE>
agreed, the turboedit/uberdata options are open, but later on...... i just want to get it up and running until i can get some dyno time. then i should be educated enough to do the rom burning........ thanx for the input guys
agreed, the turboedit/uberdata options are open, but later on...... i just want to get it up and running until i can get some dyno time. then i should be educated enough to do the rom burning........ thanx for the input guys
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11-04-2003, 04:17 PM
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Re: (scatuli)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by scatuli »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">UBERDATA cheap and good</TD></TR></TABLE>
11-04-2003, 04:20 PM
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Re: (Mpir3)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mpir3 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Yes but not for everybody
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Oops, you're right. Stupid people should go some other route.
Yes but not for everybody
</TD></TR></TABLE>Oops, you're right. Stupid people should go some other route.
11-04-2003, 04:57 PM
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Re: --Poll-- Low boost, low budget fuel managment options --Poll-- (integrx)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by integrx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">isn't the SMC better than the AFC, or the exactly the same except for the screen? Do you tune both of them the same way?</TD></TR></TABLE>
There are numerous threads on this topic, try searching. Also I know that kpt4321 has written a tuning manual for the safc, ask him about that.
As far as pros for the SAFC go, it has a screen, that allows you to monitor correction %, rpm, throttle position, air flow(not applicable to hondas), map pressure, etc. It also has a peak hold feature that alows you see the max values.
Id say if you were to go with either of the two go w/the SAFC unquestionably. If you want cheap go w/a FMU.
Jake d.
There are numerous threads on this topic, try searching. Also I know that kpt4321 has written a tuning manual for the safc, ask him about that.
As far as pros for the SAFC go, it has a screen, that allows you to monitor correction %, rpm, throttle position, air flow(not applicable to hondas), map pressure, etc. It also has a peak hold feature that alows you see the max values.
Id say if you were to go with either of the two go w/the SAFC unquestionably. If you want cheap go w/a FMU.
Jake d.
11-04-2003, 11:59 PM
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Oops, you're right. Stupid people should go some other route.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I could not agree more. The only people that cant seem to make the rom editing rograms work correctly for them are idiots..
HRRMMMM why wont this stock LS map run my b-16.......????
yeah, educate yourself and use a rom editing program. vafc= sucks, your still adding timing, and thats not good. But if you choose to not educate yourself, go for it.
Rob
Oops, you're right. Stupid people should go some other route.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I could not agree more. The only people that cant seem to make the rom editing rograms work correctly for them are idiots..
HRRMMMM why wont this stock LS map run my b-16.......????
yeah, educate yourself and use a rom editing program. vafc= sucks, your still adding timing, and thats not good. But if you choose to not educate yourself, go for it.
Rob
11-05-2003, 07:33 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rjardy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I could not agree more. The only people that cant seem to make the rom editing rograms work correctly for them are idiots..
HRRMMMM why wont this stock LS map run my b-16.......????
yeah, educate yourself and use a rom editing program. vafc= sucks, your still adding timing, and thats not good. But if you choose to not educate yourself, go for it.
Rob</TD></TR></TABLE>
Again ROM editing is not out of the question, i have researched the topic and it is the IDEAL way to go. The afc+450's would just be temporary to get it up and running until i can spend the time on burning the chip, and acutally soldering it in.
Running @ 7psi and running a bit rich would help out the addition of timing.....
Unfortunately for me i have a chipped NA PM6 that i am using for my zc that has different timing and fuel maps which im sure is adding a pissload of timing.
Really looks to me that turboedit is the only way to go if i can get ahold of another pm6
I could not agree more. The only people that cant seem to make the rom editing rograms work correctly for them are idiots..
HRRMMMM why wont this stock LS map run my b-16.......????
yeah, educate yourself and use a rom editing program. vafc= sucks, your still adding timing, and thats not good. But if you choose to not educate yourself, go for it.
Rob</TD></TR></TABLE>
Again ROM editing is not out of the question, i have researched the topic and it is the IDEAL way to go. The afc+450's would just be temporary to get it up and running until i can spend the time on burning the chip, and acutally soldering it in.
Running @ 7psi and running a bit rich would help out the addition of timing.....
Unfortunately for me i have a chipped NA PM6 that i am using for my zc that has different timing and fuel maps which im sure is adding a pissload of timing.
Really looks to me that turboedit is the only way to go if i can get ahold of another pm6
11-05-2003, 09:22 AM
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Does anyone know if there are any maps for the 1.8 DOHC engine? I'd like to use turboedit but they dont have maps the support DOHC non-tec as far as I know.
I have herd nothing but good things about the SMC.
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I have herd nothing but good things about the SMC.
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11-05-2003, 09:36 AM
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good good........ keep the opinions coming.........
i want some horror stories using the the safc or smc since it doesnt subtract timing.......
can you get a msd BTM and use it with an SCI igintion? just throwing another option
i want some horror stories using the the safc or smc since it doesnt subtract timing.......
can you get a msd BTM and use it with an SCI igintion? just throwing another option
11-05-2003, 10:36 AM
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Get a hondata. save a little more and get an s200b. that way you dont lose money when you upgrade in like 3 months! That is what i would do, but i like to do it right and to full potential on the first trip around
11-05-2003, 12:59 PM
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I would like to get Hondata myself. But see IM Non OBD and I dont want to spend $ to convert then get Hondata aswell. I wouldnt mind doing the conversion, the $ is a factor. I think that if your SOHC turboedit and ghettodyne are excellent standalone options, plus the software is free! You have to get some chips and an eprom burner and you have to install it but still.... A standalone is a standalone. 
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