The blacktop ZC tranny is an L3, so I can't use it. That's cool that you can get that setup for so cheap though. The CG tranny that I have was used in the 86-89 USDM Integra and the 86-87 JDM (brown top) ZC.

The bad news is that I'm kinda stuck as far as an LSD. OPM is kinda pricey and I don't really trust the Phantom Grip. The good news is that these trannies are a dime a dozen, so if I break it, I'll just go get another one.

Sonny

 

Actually I just found out that I'm getting the tranny NOW. I'm going to swap it in with my new clutch next week.

 

Well I could be wrong or Japanese cars could be different, but in my domestic days I understood that Posi-Trak, Traction-Lok, etc were different manufacturers' names for the same thing...a limited slip differential.

 

Positrak is a limited slip, so is trak-loc. A locker (as is Detroit Locker) is literaly that it locks just like a spool when there is a predetermined difference in axel speed, and as long as it sees the difference in traction. Its all or nothing. Ergo a locker is a bad idea on a FWD but a limited slip which is exactly that it limits slip, does not lock the differential works well on a FWD or a RWD.


[Modified by virginia_dude, 9:01 PM 7/11/2002]

 

maybe if u plan to leave your car stock it might last for a few months... aha

 

Well, a detroit locker should lock when you're going straight line...they are supposed to be better for round track use, which is why all the Boss 302 Mustangs came with them. They were built specifically for roundy round and they did destroy all the competetion, but anyway...that is a good explantation of why they are breaking stock diffs.

*NOTE* I am not an advocate of any of these products. I will probably always be a one wheel wonder unless I find an LSD sitting in the street or something. My original post was to let the guy know that the opinions here are biased and not because so many people have used them and had bad luck with them. Most people that badmouth the Phantom Grip don't even have second hand experience with them (I don't know anyone personally that has either type of diff, but I have read several good reviews of both).

 

A detroit lockker only locks in a straight line IF you have wheelspin, it does not lock unless one axel tries to turn at a faster speed than the other, otherwise it would NEVER unlock, it alows a certain amount of differetiation, It DOES lock in normal 90 degree turns, take my word for that, Me , my brother and a friend of ours all three have them on our rear axels of our 4 Wheel drives. THey all grab on turns. Thats why thiose are suitible only on RWD vehicles. Having these lock or unlock on a FWD in a turn would lead to a trip to change your underwear or worse a trip to the morgue. Oh and as long as there is no wheelspin say on race cars you reffered to it is a moot issue, but would be better than a spool since it does alow a certain amount of differentiation which clearly gives better traction than when they lock and therfore drag or skid one of the tires in a turn. Since for the benifit of those who don't know this already the outside wheel in a turn has to make more turns and travel a further distance than the inside tire. Force them both to turn the same rate and one has to skid or something breaks. That is why spools or welded diffs are a real bad idea unless you plan on only going straight. Wellded diffs are just a bad idea anyway since it can not have the strength that a spool has and when sticky tires put the strain on the driveline by trying to turn different speeds that welded diff is the weakest link in most cases. That is why the phanton grip case buster is not a great idea. it is more of a locker than a true limited slip.

[Modified by virginia_dude, 7:58 AM 7/12/2002]


[Modified by virginia_dude, 8:05 AM 7/12/2002]

 

i have experience with the Phantom **** and after seeing several cars spinning only 1 wheel (i tie them to my cargo van, we get bored on late nights) im glad i jsut went and got my Quaiffe. i have never seen any of them cause any damage or break anything, they jsut dont do what they advertise.

 

Phantom Grip...I am not hear trying to explain Phantom Grip but, its simple, affordable, does what it advertises and has BEEN PROVEN TIME AFTER TIME!
Besides autocross cars and misc. teams which you guys probably don't know and don't care about, It went 9.?? in Pacific Performance's Civic before so I guess its good enough to run 9's but not on the street? Exactly what someone else said before speak frome xperience.

 

But do they run that now? Not the last time I checked. At one of the races we bought a tranny from Steven and he had a prodrive spool in it. He even told me he goes through trannys all the time. We destroyed the tranny we bought from him and the very first pass and it was also cryo'd. Damn ring and pinion!!

art

 

Sorry, but you have no credibility in my eyes. You obviously work for John Brown and he owns the patent to the Phantom Grip.

 

Nuff said

 

lol, creditability=yes. Opinion biased? Not really but thats not for me to decide. People believe what they want too.