dohcdelsol93

Ok the ls/vtec turbo is almost complete but I have yet to find anyone running a similar turbo mani with a LS oil pan so I need to know if my oil line looks good to you guys. I had to route it going from the turbo to a 90 deg fitting and then to another 90 degree fiting facing toward the front of the car and then wrap the oil line around to the back of the turbo where it meets with 45 degree fitting before she mates to the oil pan fitting. Confusing enough yet? Here are the pics. Unfortuantly I couldn't find an easier route thanks to that well hung mani. Thanks
-Josh
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The bottom few pics are taken from an upside down angle, sorry I couldnt get them to rotate. I suck with a camera

dohcdelsol93

the first pic is a view from the top of the engine bay

the second and third pic is a side shot from the drivers side wheel well

the fourth pic is the most detailed pic taken from underneath the car but thanks to
the tight fit it was hard to take good angle shot without having the car 2 ft off the ground if you flip it upside down you get what it looks like. It angles down a total of almost two inches, I just want to know if it will hurt anything having the hose going foward to the front of the car before cutting toward the back will hurt anything

Adriano

It's not the steepest angle, but it will do.

Adriano

TurboCoop

From lookin at it I dont think your turbos gonna last that long with it like that. Trust me, I killed 2 turbos cause of a shitty return line, and mine was even better looking than that one. Why cant you do a 45 off the turbo and a 45 into the pan? Get a new oil pan if you have to, and get it welded to be safe. I cant really see how good/bad it is from the pics, but 2 90's and a 45 cant be good at all. I hope its 10an by the way, cause if its 8an you might as well just throw your turbo in the trash now. Sorry thats not what you wanted to hear, but believe me its easier to fix it now than to have a bad turbo and no car to drive later.

m R g S r

my turbo is fine and mine is worse

dohcdelsol93

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TurboCoop &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">From lookin at it I dont think your turbos gonna last that long with it like that. Trust me, I killed 2 turbos cause of a shitty return line, and mine was even better looking than that one. Why cant you do a 45 off the turbo and a 45 into the pan? Get a new oil pan if you have to, and get it welded to be safe. I cant really see how good/bad it is from the pics, but 2 90's and a 45 cant be good at all. I hope its 10an by the way, cause if its 8an you might as well just throw your turbo in the trash now. Sorry thats not what you wanted to hear, but believe me its easier to fix it now than to have a bad turbo and no car to drive later.</TD></TR></TABLE>

It is -10 and line.
I cannot do two 45s becuase there is not engough cleareance between the oil pan and the turbo oil flange for two fittings to fit. .

As far as another oil pan goes, will a gsr oil pan sit low enough or would I need a moroso?

93NTEGLS

i would redo that return line asap

dohcdelsol93

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93NTEGLS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i would redo that return line asap
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What do you consider wrong with it? Too many bends? Too long? Position?
If I change the oil pan do I need to go with a GSR or an aftermarket? The only way to make the line drop any lower would be lowering the fitting on the oil pan which is not possible on this shallow ls oil pan.

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dohcdelsol93

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Riake &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Check out my masterful Paint SKILLZ yO!

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Ok cool I see now, but I cannot clock my turbo back toward the engine because it will lower my charge pipe dangerously close to the ground. This is a love fab mini me EQ so it sits very low. It's hung like a horse. But I do think that I will be able to move the oil bung over and every thing will line better.

Will it matter if the oil bung is on the shallow side of the oil pan?

Riake

Dont take my word for it, but I would estimate that as long as the bung is over the oil line in the pan then it would be fine, no matter where it is.

Civicman86

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dohcdelsol93 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok cool I see now, but I cannot clock my turbo back toward the engine because it will lower my charge pipe dangerously close to the ground. This is a love fab mini me EQ so it sits very low. It's hung like a horse. But I do think that I will be able to move the oil bung over and every thing will line better.

Will it matter if the oil bung is on the shallow side of the oil pan?</TD></TR></TABLE>

You should be able to just clock the center section and keep both hot and cold side facing however you want them to keep your pipes good still.

dohcdelsol93

yeah, I understand that part. The way the line is run now there is a good 2 inch drop going from the turbo to the pan but I believe that everyone is saying my current oil return won't work because of too many fittings. The pic you showed your madd art skills on is taken from the bottom so it looks like it's going up hill instead of down. I have another oil pan and I'll tap it tonight and move it over to the shallow side

bare

Usually the oil return line is a GRAVITY dump as in there is little to no pressure. Little to no need for the fancy fittings a simple Hose and Clamps is certainly adequate.. remember NO pressure. Sizeof tubing IS important though 1/2" id is minimum.. bigger is better here.

Quad-Damage

that's fine mine is about like that

dohcdelsol93

ok I found a way to ditch one fo the 90's, Now I have a 90 going from the flange and straight to the oil pan, only prob is that it lowered my fitting on the pan by an inch but hopefully this won't hurt anything. I don't want to clock the center of the turbo because I want it to go strieght up and down so oil will not sit in my turbo and cause hot spots while running or build up that pretty goo when cooling. The hose in the pic is not the hose i'm going to use. I will be using 10 and ss braided hose, this is just a test fit hose. Let me know what you guys think now.


the second pic is taken from a tilt

TurboCoop

That looks a lot better, it looks almost like you could use a 45deg NPT to AN fitting from the oil drain flange (on turbo) and then a straight 10an fitting to the hose right into that straight fitting on the oil pan and have a little more slope. the NPT to AN 45deg fittings are a lot cheaper than 90deg hose fittings too.

civicross

Make sure you get the fittings threaded down all the way, and don't use teflon tape on them.

dohcdelsol93

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TurboCoop &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That looks a lot better, it looks almost like you could use a 45deg NPT to AN fitting from the oil drain flange (on turbo) and then a straight 10an fitting to the hose right into that straight fitting on the oil pan and have a little more slope. the NPT to AN 45deg fittings are a lot cheaper than 90deg hose fittings too.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Unfortunatly the 45 deg fitting will not fit, If I put a 45 off of the turbo I would have to lower the bung on the oil pan another inch to inch and a half. Thanks for the help though. I'm going to have to ditch these re-usable fittings becuase even using the 90 and the straight connector It's still almost a half inch too long (I have them so close that the inner sleeves touch). I'm going back to the hose shop today to get a shorter similar hose today. Thanks for the help, I'll be boosted this weekend and have the car tunned thur

R6E6I6D

why did u say to not use teflon tape? My feeds coverd in it, But my return is a revhard style hose... and clamps cant go wrong.. simple and ghetto

Soccerking3000

you dont use teflon tape on those fittings because they are pretty damn precise and the extra thickness of the teflon wrap can actually not allow it to seal properly.

R6E6I6D

o ok thanks I didnt know that

RNPoo7

someone help this man out

splitime

Yah, no teflon on AN fittings.

Also... just another thing that isn't oil related... how about replacing that 90 angle with a 90 bend? It'll help... right now air is coming out of your turbo and hitting a wall... then rerouting... a bend will help with flow alot. Heck even a cast bend will flow better than that cut 90.

yee SERIOUS

iTrader: (1)

looks ok and a lot better now to me.