OBD2 Emissions w/ hondata
11-25-2006, 03:51 AM
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OBD2 Emissions w/ hondata
Well like the topic says. How has everyone gotten around the fact that you have hondata in a 96 or newer vehicle? Is the hook-up the only way or is there another?
11-25-2006, 07:00 AM
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Re: OBD2 Emissions w/ hondata (Drkaccrd)
Most plp probably get the hook on that one.
You could make a board that takes communicates with the Hondata box and have it act as an intermediary that fools the OBD2 diagnostic equipment. It would need to able fool a lot of things though. OBD2 can erase codes too.
A PIC might be able to do it.
11-25-2006, 07:31 AM
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Re: OBD2 Emissions w/ hondata (F20Cteg)
Well I guess the only way to retain OBD2 & be emissions compliant would be a good piggyback fuel management system. (if that exsists) I guess I should start a new topic then?
11-25-2006, 09:37 AM
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i have obd1 injectors that fit in my rc plugs
i have mystock map sensor still on my tb, and the harness plug still wired in.
i just swap the map and injectors, and put in stock ecu and don't boost.
i have mystock map sensor still on my tb, and the harness plug still wired in.
i just swap the map and injectors, and put in stock ecu and don't boost.
11-25-2006, 09:38 AM
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Re: OBD2 Emissions w/ hondata (Drkaccrd)
You can run the OBd-1 ecu , it will not read the ECu when they try to connect to the port, but here in CT if the obd2 port doesnt work ,they just sniff the car 
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11-25-2006, 09:47 AM
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hmmmmmmmm so I guess if i have a 3bar map sensor with the sensor hole blocked off I wouldnt be able to revert back to my stock ECU which is OBD2. How about your injectors even though your in boost your not throwing a CEL for running too rich?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by OBRJosh »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You can run the OBd-1 ecu , it will not read the ECu when they try to connect to the port, but here in CT if the obd2 port doesnt work ,they just sniff the car </TD></TR></TABLE> your a lucky bastard!!!!!!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by OBRJosh »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You can run the OBd-1 ecu , it will not read the ECu when they try to connect to the port, but here in CT if the obd2 port doesnt work ,they just sniff the car </TD></TR></TABLE> your a lucky bastard!!!!!!
11-25-2006, 11:36 AM
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Re: (Drkaccrd)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Drkaccrd »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hmmmmmmmm so I guess if i have a 3bar map sensor with the sensor hole blocked off I wouldnt be able to revert back to my stock ECU which is OBD2. How about your injectors even though your in boost your not throwing a CEL for running too rich?
your a lucky bastard!!!!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
with stock ecu dont' get into boost
your a lucky bastard!!!!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
with stock ecu dont' get into boost
11-25-2006, 01:38 PM
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Re: OBD2 Emissions w/ hondata (OBRJosh)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by OBRJosh »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You can run the OBd-1 ecu , it will not read the ECu when they try to connect to the port, but here in CT if the obd2 port doesnt work ,they just sniff the car </TD></TR></TABLE>
It's not that easy anymore Josh.... have you been recently?
</TD></TR></TABLE>It's not that easy anymore Josh.... have you been recently?
11-25-2006, 03:15 PM
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Re: OBD2 Emissions w/ hondata (tepid1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tepid1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
It's not that easy anymore Josh.... have you been recently?</TD></TR></TABLE>Yea my buddy went last week with his 96 ex with a jdm Type R engine, and ecu wouldnt read though data port so they sniffed his car and he barley passed i can have him confirm this hes on Ht
It's not that easy anymore Josh.... have you been recently?</TD></TR></TABLE>Yea my buddy went last week with his 96 ex with a jdm Type R engine, and ecu wouldnt read though data port so they sniffed his car and he barley passed
i can have him confirm this hes on Ht
11-25-2006, 03:57 PM
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Re: OBD2 Emissions w/ hondata (tepid1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tepid1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That is great news then! Thanks.
Where did he go? I want to go the the same place!
</TD></TR></TABLE> When he comes online ill have him Pm you
Where did he go? I want to go the the same place!
</TD></TR></TABLE> When he comes online ill have him Pm you
11-25-2006, 04:50 PM
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Re: OBD2 Emissions w/ hondata (tepid1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tepid1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Where did he go? I want to go the the same place! </TD></TR></TABLE>
HAHA HE'S HERE!!!!!!
i mean i'm here haha
hey josh get your fukin info straight man......it's a 98 with a type-R hahaha
anyhoo....if you go on the ctdmv's website they clearly state that .......some 1996 and newer vehicles will not respond to the obd2 scanning...in this case the car will be sniffed
just barely passed by the crack of my *** man
CO levels were below limits
N levels were below limits
......HC limit was like 167 ppm.....i hit 167 ppm!!!!! *** you DMV hahaha
Where did he go? I want to go the the same place!
</TD></TR></TABLE>HAHA HE'S HERE!!!!!!
i mean i'm here haha
hey josh get your fukin info straight man......it's a 98 with a type-R hahaha
anyhoo....if you go on the ctdmv's website they clearly state that .......some 1996 and newer vehicles will not respond to the obd2 scanning...in this case the car will be sniffed
just barely passed by the crack of my *** man
CO levels were below limits
N levels were below limits
......HC limit was like 167 ppm.....i hit 167 ppm!!!!! *** you DMV hahaha
11-25-2006, 04:57 PM
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if i'm not mistaken you can still run your turbo and **** but you'd ahve to run a VERY conservative tune...at least for the trip to and from the test site
goto http://www.ctemissions.com/
print up a hard copy of a couple of the pages of the dmv's site stating such...(you should be able to find it easily) and make sure to place them on your passenger seat when you hand the tech your keys...make sure they are in PLAIN site...**** i failed 2x before and did this and snuck by under the radar!
goto http://www.ctemissions.com/
print up a hard copy of a couple of the pages of the dmv's site stating such...(you should be able to find it easily) and make sure to place them on your passenger seat when you hand the tech your keys...make sure they are in PLAIN site...**** i failed 2x before and did this and snuck by under the radar!
11-25-2006, 05:15 PM
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gotta couple more links for you
http://www.ctemissions.com/expect-obd-light.html
http://www.ctemissions.com/expect-obd.html
definitely print this one ^...botoom of the page....make sure you have the ctdmv header...just print the whole page....no selection
http://www.ctemissions.com/self-repair.html
http://www.ctemissions.com/tes....html
hope these help man...lemme know
http://www.ctemissions.com/expect-obd-light.html
http://www.ctemissions.com/expect-obd.html
definitely print this one ^...botoom of the page....make sure you have the ctdmv header...just print the whole page....no selection
http://www.ctemissions.com/self-repair.html
http://www.ctemissions.com/tes....html
hope these help man...lemme know
11-25-2006, 05:19 PM
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oh yeah...very important....when u do go for your appointment....make sure it's good and warmed up and make sure to leave the car running
if you shut the car off the catalytic converter will cool down and not burn as much
if you shut the car off the catalytic converter will cool down and not burn as much
11-25-2006, 10:34 PM
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Ive never heard of the DMV emissions being like that here in VA. It should be the same everywhere at every DMV except for CA ha!!! thats one thing they dont get!!! but they get all the hot chicks and awsome weather.......whatever...
In light of this new info I will have to dig deeper and find out if that is in fact possible here gettin the sniffer for 96 & up...
In light of this new info I will have to dig deeper and find out if that is in fact possible here gettin the sniffer for 96 & up...
11-26-2006, 05:51 AM
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Re: OBD2 Emissions w/ hondata (Drkaccrd)
OBD2 means that for emissions testing, they will hook up a scanner to the diag port and if there are any codes you fail.
Ask me how I know, I failed 3 times (me = OBD2 in MD)
The cost effective way to pass is to retain the stock ECU, use a piggy back of some sort, I chose Emanage after the SAFC-2 did not work too well, and a o2 simulator for the o2 sensor on the cat.
If you have any other questions, send me a PM. There are a few other minor details, but above is the base needed.
Good luck.
Ask me how I know, I failed 3 times (me = OBD2 in MD)
The cost effective way to pass is to retain the stock ECU, use a piggy back of some sort, I chose Emanage after the SAFC-2 did not work too well, and a o2 simulator for the o2 sensor on the cat.
If you have any other questions, send me a PM. There are a few other minor details, but above is the base needed.
Good luck.
11-26-2006, 09:35 AM
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Re: OBD2 Emissions w/ hondata (Drkaccrd)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Drkaccrd »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so I guess the emanage worked alright for you? better than the safc2 I would imagine...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Works pretty good. The only problem that I have is that the injectors I'm running are larger than supported (440s). That has caused a few minor issues, but will be resolved this winter.
Works pretty good. The only problem that I have is that the injectors I'm running are larger than supported (440s). That has caused a few minor issues, but will be resolved this winter.