kKdARIAN

Ok. I got my head from trboCIVICWRX. It was ported and polished with upgraded oversized valves, valve springs and an Skunk camgear. The head was also O-ringed.

My question is this. Should i keep the O-rings on my head or have them machined off? I don't really know what they do or how they benefit my setup, but i know that gasket choices are going to be few having them on my head. The guy at Cometic told me that O-ringed heads are for cars that are torn apart every other weekend when a headgasket can be replaced. He also said that I would be replacing them every 6 months, which hardly seems worth having them on there, so thats why i ask.

My current setup for the head is as stated above, the port and polish, upgraded oversized valves and valve springs, Skunk Camgear and a Zex Stage 1 camshaft. This car will also be boosted in the coming months as well. I just have no clue what to do with these o-rings or what kind of gasket would be best or even where to get one. I need one with "fire rings".

Any help would be greatly appreciated.







Modified by kKdARIAN at 8:01 AM 10/23/2003

DaveF

the o rings will hold the cumbustion inside the chamber better than an ordinary gasket.


depending on what the o rings are made from will be the deciding factor on the headgasket.

keep the o rings.

kKdARIAN

i belive they are made out of steel

Thanks for the info about their purpose, I guess i just need to get a gasket... I was told that i CAN'T use a gasket with a "Fire Ring" - where can i get one?




Modified by kKdARIAN at 9:44 AM 10/23/2003

Boostfed

Get either a factory gasket or a Cometic MLS not the HP gasket and you should be FINE. Good luck

kKdARIAN

so i can put a factory headgasket on and it will be fine? even with the steel o-rings?

earl

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kKdARIAN &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so i can put a factory headgasket on and it will be fine? even with the steel o-rings?

</TD></TR></TABLE>Depends on the bore size of your block. Stock bore could use the stock gasket.

kKdARIAN

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Modified by kKdARIAN at 8:49 AM 11/4/2003

kKdARIAN

Welp, got the stock head gasket from honda, and well the o-rings caused it not to seal properly and well, needless to say i had coolant burning from my exhaust and an oil leak from the block itself.

So i really need some serious help. Should i get a Cometic gasket made or just spend the $200 for an hks head gasket?

Opinions would be greatly appreciated.

kenny

PrecisionH23a

I have always seen copper o-rings used. The majority of the time the sleeves are the ones with the o-ring groove and not the head. Will steel o-rings even crush the way that the copper o-rings do when used? Could the problem lie beyond these lines?

You have to be very careful when installing the head on the block and have someone watch to make sure the o-rings stay in tact when putting it on the block. You might want to use some copper gasket spray for your new headgasket to promote better sealing as well.

kKdARIAN

the rings have been imbedded in the head. They are pretty much stationary. My problem lyes with the head gasket not fully crushing due to the o-rings.

My attempt was with a stock honda gasket - D16 engine' see picture 1 for a view of the orings.

kenny

DaveF

with steel o rings, you are supposed to use a copper headgasket.

with copper o rings, you can use a stock gasket.

kKdARIAN

Who makes a copper headgasket' probly gonna need to be alittle thicker then stock'

ITR9788

Speaking of o-rings, I pulled my GE block and had it rebored to 81.5mm for some new pistons. Can I still use the factory headgasket? And where do you guys get the copper?

kKdARIAN

I just ordered a new COPPER headgasket from cometic. 43mm thickness. Sucks it takes so long to ship but oh well...

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ITR9788 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Speaking of o-rings, I pulled my GE block and had it rebored to 81.5mm for some new pistons. Can I still use the factory headgasket? And where do you guys get the copper? </TD></TR></TABLE>

goto http://www.cometic.com and see what you need' then give them a call.

they have great customer service Michelle rocks!

*sigh* 7 day wait cus they are doing inventory on the 5th and nothing ships'

PrecisionH23a

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2.2Lcivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">with steel o rings, you are supposed to use a copper headgasket.

with copper o rings, you can use a stock gasket.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That is what I was thinking... thanks for confirming that for me