i heard that you arent suppose to put any type of FI on a vtec engine...is this true or is it just a personal preference

what is the best engine to build/purchase/swap if you want to put a turbo on???

meant to post in FI btw...sry

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sleepyzze110 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">there's plenty of ls vtec turbo guys </TD></TR></TABLE>

they hang out in the FI forums

try this https://honda-tech.com/zeroforum?id=16

 

i heard that its bad becasue the turbo is pushing sooo much pressure in soo hard thru the valve openings and then all of a sudden the valves open more...... soo u get spikes or something when it tries to compensate... or sumthing i dunno.... but i dun thin it really matters, my firends got a b16 turbo and it isnt really affecting it

 

ya when i heard that, i figured it was just an all-motor priest just trying to convert someone

 

ya nothing wrong with a boosted b16!

 

In the begining they had problems with turbo and vtec...it would bog and all kinds of stuff. Tuners have now found ways to adjust maps and timing to accomidate vtec and the cars work fine. My friend has a 2.0L GSR Turbo...ran like **** before he tuned it...since he tuned it...runs fine and pulls even harder when vtec kicks in.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=823819

 

i think the only probblem with boostin vtec motor is the high comp.

 

Ya, when vtec engages with boost it pulls HARD.....but i have heard a bunch of people saying having boost with vtec kills the 'reliability factor' of a honda ......I believe them.....i wouldnt be pushing massive ammounts of psi on a vtec block.....


there are even mini me turbo set ups too....they pull hard as **** too for a SOHC .......so its not like it will blow up....it just might not make it to 300K miles or anything

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by murmur9 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ya, when vtec engages with boost it pulls HARD.....but i have heard a bunch of people saying having boost with vtec kills the 'reliability factor' of a honda ......I believe them.....i wouldnt be pushing massive ammounts of psi on a vtec block.....


there are even mini me turbo set ups too....they pull hard as **** too for a SOHC .......so its not like it will blow up....it just might not make it to 300K miles or anything </TD></TR></TABLE>

excuse my noobism but what exactly does mini me stand for?

 

mine-me is a vtec head on a non-vtec single cam block

 

a "mini-me" is an austin powers character

also a " VTEC head on a NON-VTEC sohc"

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by H23 EG Hybrid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My friend has a 2.0L GSR Turbo...ran like **** before he tuned it...since he tuned it...runs fine and pulls even harder when vtec kicks in.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=823819</TD></TR></TABLE>

Gsr's came in 2.0? hmmm someone explain

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by murmur9 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ya, when vtec engages with boost it pulls HARD.....but i have heard a bunch of people saying having boost with vtec kills the 'reliability factor' of a honda ......I believe them.....i wouldnt be pushing massive ammounts of psi on a vtec block..... </TD></TR></TABLE>

well you have to keep in mind that if you boost any n/a motor like a honda, obviously you cannot push a lot of psi because the internal werent meant to handle it. on the other hand if you build it why not put massive psi

 

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Gsr's came in 2.0? hmmm someone explain</TD></TR></TABLE>
nah, it's either bored out or stroked

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by picott &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i heard that you arent suppose to put any type of FI on a vtec engine...is this true or is it just a personal preference

what is the best engine to build/purchase/swap if you want to put a turbo on???

meant to post in FI btw...sry </TD></TR></TABLE>

A turbo will add power to any honda engine, look at mr heel toes boosted 87 CRX ect. There really is no bad engines that you would do a swap with.

However what is your insitence with a turbo for ?

If it's just to boost the hell out of it ect perhaps you should buy a turbo car like a 1g eclipse or talon or MR2. The Iron blocks and low compression were designed for a daily driven turbo set up and will be cheaper relatively to do mods to

If you have to go boost on a honda motor than I would say a b18B only because it's a pretty simple motor and less to have problems with and the right turbo setup with the right gear box like a GSR or B16 ect and it will be all the power you can put to street tires

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by r_Senik &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think the only probblem with boostin vtec motor is the high comp. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Not true...you can run boost on a high compression vtec block...or even on a high compression non-Vtec block. You just have to tune and run less boost.

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Gsr's came in 2.0? hmmm someone explain</TD></TR></TABLE>

B18c1 block sleeved to 84.5mm = 1,956cc's or 2.0L

 

There is nothing wrong with boosting a Stock motor as long as you have good tuning. I have seen people put 25+ psi on stock blocks but of course they had pistons and rods and very good tunning. I have a friend that is boosting on a 11:1 compression GSR and he is putting about 670 Whp, But he has a stand alone and a fully built motor. I am running a B16 that has been resleaved and fully built and Hondata.

The person who told you that you couldnt do it or shouldnt is probably an all motor guy or he doesnt know anything about Honda's.

What kind of motor do you plan on boosting? there is a big difference in building differnt motor's. Like the B16A is a great motor to build for a fast street car on boost. Because it has the best rod to stroke ratio, and doesnt put out as much tourque as a B18C. with the lower torque this allows you to get off the line without spinning as much as you would with a B18C due to more torque. so like I said it depends on what you want to do and what you plans are.
I know there is going to be someone who tries to flame me on this but what ever this is honda-tech so much is expected.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BoostedEG6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I have seen people put 25+ psi on stock blocks but of course they had pistons and rods and very good tunning. </TD></TR></TABLE>

then it wouldn't be a stock block now would it :T

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by llxzxll &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

then it wouldn't be a stock block now would it :T</TD></TR></TABLE>

not stock internals but stock block as far as sleaves, sorry for the miss guidence. so I guess different people call things different. I would consider that stock block but aftermarket internals. but like I said thats just me

 

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not stock internals but stock block as far as sleaves, sorry for the miss guidence. so I guess different people call things different. I would consider that stock block but aftermarket internals. but like I said thats just me</TD></TR></TABLE>

No, then it would be "stock sleeves"

Stock block is NOTHING in the block has been modified.

 

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No, then it would be "stock sleeves"

Stock block is NOTHING in the block has been modified.</TD></TR></TABLE>

if you read what I said then you would see where I do belive I said,

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BoostedEG6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sorry for the miss guidence. so I guess different people call things different.</TD></TR></TABLE>

But what ever it doesnt matter to me people on here always try to find something to talk **** about........

 

what engine comes stock in a 97 dx?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by picott &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what engine comes stock in a 97 dx?</TD></TR></TABLE>

D16Y7...I personally know 2 people running 10 psi on those motors (tuned of course) without problems

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BauleyCivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

D16Y7...I personally know 2 people running 10 psi on those motors (tuned of course) without problems</TD></TR></TABLE>

sweet, do you know what their setups are?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by picott &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

sweet, do you know what their setups are?</TD></TR></TABLE>

One has a greddy kit tuned on e-manage (user Ricey McRicerton)

The other has a T3 with an HF manifold with AEM EMS (user tgreaves)