808DB1

whats up my good people , i just completed my LS turbo integra and have a few problems starting this beast. currently its pretty much a stock LS one crome pro and precision 880's now when i go to start the car and nothing im getting spark and fuel and lots of it. it poped like once but it doesnt start. i only have a base map right now with this much fuel do you think it even has a chance of starting

ahobbs

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so cranking but not starting, no check engine lights or anything? i didnt understand the last sentence.

808DB1

yeah it cranks and i am getting fuel and spark , what im wondering now is if im getting this much fuel is it a shitty base map or is this the norm for injectors of this size

ahobbs

where is the overall fuel trim? it may be to lean, you must not have a wideband

808DB1

i have a plx devices wide band , didn't really pay attention to the fuel trim because when i pulled the plugs they were super wet

ahobbs

look at you fuel trim and see where you are. you can IM me if you have anymore questions after you do that

808DB1

alright thanks

F40

Prob chrome not doing what its being told to do. Get a decent engine management system.

808DB1

possibly but i hear of lots of sucessfull builds using crome. if all else fails i guess ill look in to hondata

ahobbs

just get in and change the uel trim

808DB1

i would if i had a ostrich damn it

asianspeed

howzit!

I'm actually working on getting my LS turbo up and running too. I've been tuning it with crome as well. I'm new to crome, I used to use uberdata. So I'm far from a crome expert.

But what have you done so far in crome to get your base map?

What I had to do was:
1. Open crome 2 times.
2. The first one I opened a new P30 rom.
3. The second one I opened my stock base map.
4. Then I copied my stock base map into the p30 rom. Making sure that the columns and rows were identical.
5. Then I added the Fuel Tools plugin.
6. Then I opened the fuel multiplier and input the new injector size. This is what scaled the stock map to run with the larger injectors.
7. Then I went to Tools-&gt;Advanced tables and clicked on the Injector Battery Offset (stock) in the left column.
8. Then in the right I selected my new injectors from the "more" options.
9. Then I opened the fuel multiplier again, advanced tab, and put in 55 as a starting point for the offset.

This is what I had to do to 1) Get my car to start with my stock base map and bigger injectors and 2) I used the offset in the fuel multiplier to get my car to idle better.

But hopefully you can get your car to start first, then you can work on tuning your idle.

Hope that helps.

Aloha

808DB1

mahalo for the input breddren. unfortuantley i dont have a ostrich to edit my map my friend is currently looking for his so hopefully i can do something to get it going. if all else fails i will run a fmu and stock injectors for this weekends races

asianspeed

Brah, no need one ostrich to tune. It helps, but no need. I never use one when I sta tuning my car.

All you gotta do is scale back those injectors to flow the same amount that your stock injectors flow. Then add 5% on top of that to account for the added time it takes the bigger injectors to open and close.

If you sta only using one stock base map for stock injectors. Your engine is for sure dumping too much fuel. Stock is 240cc and you trying for run 880cc?? Brah you stay adding way too much fuel to run dat bugga.

But be sure for tune da bugga good before you go race um and break someting.

808DB1

going to try stock injectors and ecu today and see what happends

asianspeed

What's your setup? Maybe there's something we're missing....

I had the same problem with my car, it wouldn't start at all. I had spark, I had fuel, I replaced the dizzy cap and rotor, and then the whole dizzy. Turn's out my problem was the ecu wiring conversion harness. I guess some wires went bad and I wasn't about to test each wire. So I just bought a new one and blamo, it worked like a charm after that.

But when I was trying to fix my no-start issue. I figured I got fuel and I got spark, so maybe I wasn't getting them at the right time. Maybe check your timing belt and make sure it didn't jump a tooth. Also I read that your main fuel relay might have blown if you get no start. But that normally would cause you to have no fuel. If you turn your key to the on position, then you should hear the fuel pump and that should rule out the bad main relay. Lastly, make sure your spark plug wires are in the right order. I know that sounds stupid, but that could be a problem too if you just installed your turbo.

Good luck brah