No Spark with SpeedPro
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OK, my girl and I were in the middle of street tuning, we had JUST got everything dialed in to around 12:1 A/F ratio. We went to turn around and the car just stalled. Sideways in the road at that.
So, after prowsing over the entire engine harness, we are determined that its a coil/MSD SCI issue. Has anyone ever experienced this? The coil tested OK, so does anyone have a spare box laying around that we can try out? Or something else to try?
TIA
heres a pic so you can get a general idea of the setup:
So, after prowsing over the entire engine harness, we are determined that its a coil/MSD SCI issue. Has anyone ever experienced this? The coil tested OK, so does anyone have a spare box laying around that we can try out? Or something else to try?
TIA
heres a pic so you can get a general idea of the setup:
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Im not so sure the igniter is in there. The Dist is pretty damn bare in there. Viren originally built the car, but after a week of dicking around, we got it where we want it.
The SOHC Sol is still in shambles, on steelies in the back yard. its RIP-ped.
SpeedPro
9:1 85mm B20Vtec
t4/60-1 turbo(well, will be once it gets back from the rebuilders, jsut a straight t4 for now)
SideWinder
1000cc injectors
With the 60-1(before it sucked a fan plug up
) on there you couldnt keep traction in ANY gear; not even 5th. Once you boosted, its break loose in a tire shredding frenzy. Id estimate an easy 400whp on Pump gas at 15 psi...
The SOHC Sol is still in shambles, on steelies in the back yard. its RIP-ped.
SpeedPro
9:1 85mm B20Vtec
t4/60-1 turbo(well, will be once it gets back from the rebuilders, jsut a straight t4 for now)
SideWinder
1000cc injectors
With the 60-1(before it sucked a fan plug up
) on there you couldnt keep traction in ANY gear; not even 5th. Once you boosted, its break loose in a tire shredding frenzy. Id estimate an easy 400whp on Pump gas at 15 psi...
It's pretty simple to check. The small red wire on the msd should have 12volts with the ignition on and the white should pulse a ground when cranking or running. If that works, check the coil output. The orange is power and the black is ground....
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's pretty simple to check. The small red wire on the msd should have 12volts with the ignition on and the white should pulse a ground when cranking or running. If that works, check the coil output. The orange is power and the black is ground....</TD></TR></TABLE>
thanx tony, im out to check...
thanx tony, im out to check...
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If the white wire is dead then it's not the msd. The white wire is the output from the speed pro. Check the sensors on the distributor. The speed pro needs to see a signal from those to send a signal to the msd. If one is bad then it could cause this problem. Try another dist. if you've got one, that would be easiest. Also, check the speed pro connections, power and ground stuff. Log onto the speed pro and make sure everything is reading right in the dash screen.
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Ok...a loose connection probably wouldnt surprise me. Weve had 3 already:
alternator
Vtec
and the radiator fan relay (probably due to sucking the plug into the turbo).
Back out to the car to check inside the cabin and log onto SpeedPro...
alternator
Vtec
and the radiator fan relay (probably due to sucking the plug into the turbo).
Back out to the car to check inside the cabin and log onto SpeedPro...
Don't you have the white wire from the fast harness labeled "points" connected to the white wire of the msd? I can go thru the list but if your car was running before.. it has to be either a bad ground or a fuse to your speedpro has gone bye bye.. I doubt that it is the msd..
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Ha HA! Well, the "points" wire from the SCI box was just chillin under the dash. I think it was just "pushed" into the receptacle w/out any connector of any sort, because it was just bare wire (Viren?
.) Well, thanx everyone for the help, Im sure I'll be back!
.) Well, thanx everyone for the help, Im sure I'll be back!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tinker219 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im not so sure the igniter is in there. The Dist is pretty damn bare in there. Viren originally built the car, but after a week of dicking around, we got it where we want it.
The SOHC Sol is still in shambles, on steelies in the back yard. its RIP-ped.
SpeedPro
9:1 85mm B20Vtec
t4/60-1 turbo(well, will be once it gets back from the rebuilders, jsut a straight t4 for now)
SideWinder
1000cc injectors
With the 60-1(before it sucked a fan plug up
) on there you couldnt keep traction in ANY gear; not even 5th. Once you boosted, its break loose in a tire shredding frenzy. Id estimate an easy 400whp on Pump gas at 15 psi...</TD></TR></TABLE>
so thats the del sol viren wanted have a friendly street race with huh?? too bad he sold it. i would have loved to lay it to him
since tony is helping you with the speedpro issue and knows more than I. my advice is to get 245 or 255 drag radials and that will fix the tire shredding frenzy issue. especially in 4th. i never stepped on or shifted 5th in my car to tell you since 4th went 160+.
The SOHC Sol is still in shambles, on steelies in the back yard. its RIP-ped.
SpeedPro
9:1 85mm B20Vtec
t4/60-1 turbo(well, will be once it gets back from the rebuilders, jsut a straight t4 for now)
SideWinder
1000cc injectors
With the 60-1(before it sucked a fan plug up
) on there you couldnt keep traction in ANY gear; not even 5th. Once you boosted, its break loose in a tire shredding frenzy. Id estimate an easy 400whp on Pump gas at 15 psi...</TD></TR></TABLE>so thats the del sol viren wanted have a friendly street race with huh?? too bad he sold it. i would have loved to lay it to him
since tony is helping you with the speedpro issue and knows more than I. my advice is to get 245 or 255 drag radials and that will fix the tire shredding frenzy issue. especially in 4th. i never stepped on or shifted 5th in my car to tell you since 4th went 160+.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MotorMatrix.com »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
my advice is to get 245 or 255 drag radials and that will fix the tire shredding frenzy issue. especially in 4th. i never stepped on or shifted 5th in my car to tell you since 4th went 160+.</TD></TR></TABLE>
We have yet to redline 4th(on a straight-away pull), because we are still warming up to it.
With MY t4/60-1 on there, it very easily broke the tires loose. But, that blew too much oil from the compressor for Jen's taste, so the t04 is on right now.
So ya, times will be up soon. Too bad we only have 1/8th mile locally. We are trailoring it to Ohio for tuning, just incase it pops.
On c16 with a big 60-1(sc 63?
), Im anticipating an EASY 500whp.
Oh ya, even though we've barely scuffed the surface of the SpeedPro, it rocks so far
my advice is to get 245 or 255 drag radials and that will fix the tire shredding frenzy issue. especially in 4th. i never stepped on or shifted 5th in my car to tell you since 4th went 160+.</TD></TR></TABLE>
We have yet to redline 4th(on a straight-away pull), because we are still warming up to it.
With MY t4/60-1 on there, it very easily broke the tires loose. But, that blew too much oil from the compressor for Jen's taste, so the t04 is on right now.
So ya, times will be up soon. Too bad we only have 1/8th mile locally. We are trailoring it to Ohio for tuning, just incase it pops.
On c16 with a big 60-1(sc 63?
), Im anticipating an EASY 500whp.Oh ya, even though we've barely scuffed the surface of the SpeedPro, it rocks so far
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MotorMatrix.com »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
so thats the del sol viren wanted have a friendly street race with huh?? too bad he sold it. i would have loved to lay it to him
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LMAOL...I wonder who'll win
stan
so thats the del sol viren wanted have a friendly street race with huh?? too bad he sold it. i would have loved to lay it to him
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LMAOL...I wonder who'll win
stan
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no, thats what del sols look like when they are thrown together without a care in the world and missing half the lights.
InfamousRS, its B2B...very cool.
InfamousRS, its B2B...very cool.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tinker219 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no, thats what del sols look like when they are thrown together without a care in the world and missing half the lights.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Haha, imagine that...
Haha, imagine that...



any details on teh setup? if im not mistaken wasn't it SOHC before? good luck with tuning