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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 12:53 PM
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Ok I'll brief out my problem:

I was running the SMC+ hack and I've just switched to Uberdata. Lately I was experiencing some startup problem even when I was on the SMC+,,, 1 time out of 5 the car didn't want to start, it reved a bit and died even if I had the gaz pedal engaged to help out. Now with the Uberdata I was able to run 2 days with the car on the basemap I made, I had no cells whatsoever even in boost. 2 days ago the car just didn't want to start, all you can hear is the fuel pump when I put the key in the on position and the starter whan I put the key in the start position, no matter how long I hold the key the engine just don't start, so I went ahead and check if I was getting spark, pulled out plug number 1 grounded it to the head and asked my girlfriend to startup the car,, there was NO SPARK AT ALL and the plug was wet and smelled gaz alot due to repeatdly unsuccesful start up. So I took out the uberdata chip and put it back in my burner,, the maps were exactly the same, no corruption,, so I think it is not uberdata related,,, what could cause the ignition to go wrong?? I puted in a new cap and rotor still no luck,,, maybe the dizzy is giving up?? what else should I check for ignition related problem.

dizzy?
wires?
what else??

thanks alot
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 12:59 PM
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Default Re: No spark??? (birz)

Coil, coil wire, distributor pickup, power to coil, any OEM or aftermarket ignition modules, etc.
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 01:00 PM
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so if I buy a new dizzy my problem should be solved??

btw my ignition is totally stock.
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 01:05 PM
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Default Re: No spark??? (birz)

I would check all the wires and connectors first. Start with the least expensive repairs and go from there.
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 01:07 PM
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ok I'm going to do that right away and come back with some pictures,, I hope you would still be online as youre the only one who answered me so far
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 01:12 PM
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Default Re: No spark??? (birz)

Also make sure your main relay is working properly
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 02:29 PM
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Default Re: No spark??? (Stickdeath)

ho w do I check that??? (main relay)
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 02:38 PM
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Default Re: No spark??? (birz)

I know the small yellow wire should be green, but I used to have an MSD BTM and I just cuted a piece of wire to put it back to stock ignition anyway here are the pics:



and while I'm at it is my dizzy an OBDII?? judging by the plug
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 03:31 PM
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what the main relay has to do with spark??? I thought the main relay was for the fuel pump no??? I can't defenitly hear the fuel pump when I put key at ON but I dont see any sparks on the plugs.

so,, main relay or dizzy??
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 04:36 PM
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I need some other inputs please
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 05:52 PM
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please guys I beg you sniffffff

I'm so saddddddddddddd sniffff (bis)
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 06:00 PM
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Default Re: No spark??? (birz)

u need a book to go off from that will walk you through all of the tests to go though for no spark, u need to test the ignitor (small box in the dystro) the cap rotor, all of the cylinder pos sensors, check for continuity from the wires from the dystro right to the ecu plugs and if u dont have continuity one of your wires is broken inbetween, this would be somthing i would look into concidering u just taped into wires.
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 06:25 PM
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Try your main relay
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Old Jul 28, 2004 | 08:05 AM
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I will try out a new main relay, I've found one for 20$ I'll keep you updated.
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 01:56 PM
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update:

I have changed the main relay,,, no luck still not getting any spark btw I didnt tap any wires,, I think I'm going to buy a brand new dizzy,,, but if it still get not spark I'm kinda screwed,,,, why am I so unlucky with my car?
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 02:01 PM
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Default Re: No spark??? (birz)

check underdash fuse
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 02:25 PM
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oh, an I defintly hear the CLICK of the main relay,, and hear my fuel pump,, so what would I be checking for, in checking the fuse???
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 06:17 PM
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Default Re: No spark??? (birz)

*******BIG UPDATE!!!!*********

the car is running again woooooot!!!!!

finally after hours and hours of searching I found what the problem was, what is better than pic to show you what was it:

The faulty bastard, you can see that on the top it looks like it's burnt


now the bastard deserves what he deserves:



Yahooooo I'm so happy you can't even imagine how happy I am now
now I only need my wideband and tune that bitch!!!!

end of story. Thanks for all who helped me out in this story.


Modified by birz at 7:55 PM 7/30/2004
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