no power under 3k ? (t25 crx)
05-10-2006, 01:22 PM
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no power under 3k ? (t25 crx)
ok last night mee & a freind put on a t25 turbo on my 88 crx . im using a p28 with s100 . 550 cc injectores . jrc 8' intercooler , turboxs blowoff .
when i go to take off the car just kinda bogs! & doesn't really have any power . & i gotta kinda bearly pushon the gas 2 get it to about 2 and a half or 3k & then it goes . just takes off . so i gotta keep the car obove 3k it will go . it's kinda roght
& it bogs alot . what would cause this . this is my first turbo setup , so im new 2 it .
& it's not throwing any codes
when i go to take off the car just kinda bogs! & doesn't really have any power . & i gotta kinda bearly pushon the gas 2 get it to about 2 and a half or 3k & then it goes . just takes off . so i gotta keep the car obove 3k it will go . it's kinda roght
& it bogs alot . what would cause this . this is my first turbo setup , so im new 2 it .
& it's not throwing any codes
05-10-2006, 01:54 PM
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the kit came off a 95 civic ex . & was allready tuned . & my car has a y8 . witch is pretty much the same as a z6 . so i thought it wouldn't matter . since it pretty much the same setup .
do u thnk the injectores are to big ?
do u thnk the injectores are to big ?
05-10-2006, 02:23 PM
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Re: no power under 3k ? (hedtrip)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hedtrip »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the kit came off a 95 civic ex . & was allready tuned . & my car has a y8 . witch is pretty much the same as a z6 . so i thought it wouldn't matter . since it pretty much the same setup .
do u thnk the injectores are to big ?
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was the ecu setup for the 550cc's already ?
do u thnk the injectores are to big ?
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was the ecu setup for the 550cc's already ?
05-10-2006, 02:39 PM
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Re: no power under 3k ? (Mr.speaker)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr.speaker »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">was the ecu setup for the 550cc's already ?</TD></TR></TABLE>
yes
the whole setup went from one car to another.
the only thing diff is it's a d16y8 instead of a d16z6 & a crx , besides a eg civic .
yes
the whole setup went from one car to another.
the only thing diff is it's a d16y8 instead of a d16z6 & a crx , besides a eg civic .
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05-10-2006, 02:41 PM
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Re: no power under 3k ? (hedtrip)
Z6 have different maps for the ignition and isnt the same really at all.I use to think the same until I tried doing the Pnp For a y8 on uber.
05-10-2006, 02:48 PM
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Re: no power under 3k ? (hedtrip)
Its probably way rich below 3k.
Mine untuned idles in the 12's when cold.. when warm its right around 14.7, and i notice that there is much less lag when its warm then cold.. I obviously dont beat on it.. Just normal driving, it picks up faster once warm, when the AFR's are proper.
Oh yeah.. Its getting tuned tonight, then i can see what i can do
Mine untuned idles in the 12's when cold.. when warm its right around 14.7, and i notice that there is much less lag when its warm then cold.. I obviously dont beat on it.. Just normal driving, it picks up faster once warm, when the AFR's are proper.
Oh yeah.. Its getting tuned tonight, then i can see what i can do
05-10-2006, 03:11 PM
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Re: no power under 3k ? (beerbongskickass)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by beerbongskickass »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's not the injectors dude. You could run 1000cc injectors if you wanted to. You need to tune your car.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Exactly
running too rich can ruin your engine.. driving on someone elses tune can kill the engine.. if you keep driving the car you WILL kill the engine... Any questions?
Exactly
running too rich can ruin your engine.. driving on someone elses tune can kill the engine.. if you keep driving the car you WILL kill the engine... Any questions?
05-10-2006, 04:05 PM
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Re: no power under 3k ? (Zakar)
the timing is gunna be all screwed up a z6 and y8 have different timing plus what everyone else said before me
05-10-2006, 06:08 PM
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Re: no power under 3k ? (Soccerking3000)
man get it tuned..
My idle was funky, too high, hard hot starting, ran OK but not good. After the street tune its like night and day, went great, starts perfect, idle is mint etc..
My idle was funky, too high, hard hot starting, ran OK but not good. After the street tune its like night and day, went great, starts perfect, idle is mint etc..
05-10-2006, 07:15 PM
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Re: (Weq)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Weq »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dont listen to em man, i can tune ur car over the net from australia. Ive got a map here which will give u 50hp/70tq! for ur setup.</TD></TR></TABLE>omfgorz SENDZ IT TO ME FURST!!!!
05-10-2006, 07:49 PM
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Re: (AbitAvenger)
what i dont get is . if y8 ,d15b& z6 are diff . then why do alot of ppl use p28's on y8's & d15b's ?
i used one & it drove fine . . if it was that far off wouldn't be throwing a diff codes .
it's not throwing any . starts & ideals fine . it was throwing 21 (vtec) & 41 (02sensor) & i fixed those .
i gunna have it retuned . i just wanna understand why it wont work .
i used one & it drove fine . . if it was that far off wouldn't be throwing a diff codes .
it's not throwing any . starts & ideals fine . it was throwing 21 (vtec) & 41 (02sensor) & i fixed those .
i gunna have it retuned . i just wanna understand why it wont work .
05-11-2006, 08:40 AM
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Re: (hedtrip)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hedtrip »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yes u allready told me this .. but that still doesn't ansew my last question </TD></TR></TABLE>
What don't you understand? Sometimes it just doesn't work. My Uberdata map has been used by everybody and their mom, but some cars it just won't work very well on. Every setup is different and you have to get your car tuned specifically for your motor/setup. If you start out with somebody else map it's just a basemap to get you running and to the dyno. Lots of things can factor in why it won't work, engine mileage, weather, stock exhaust vs open downpipe, failing turbo parts, shitty spark plugs, clogged filters, etc...
What don't you understand? Sometimes it just doesn't work. My Uberdata map has been used by everybody and their mom, but some cars it just won't work very well on. Every setup is different and you have to get your car tuned specifically for your motor/setup. If you start out with somebody else map it's just a basemap to get you running and to the dyno. Lots of things can factor in why it won't work, engine mileage, weather, stock exhaust vs open downpipe, failing turbo parts, shitty spark plugs, clogged filters, etc...
05-11-2006, 09:00 AM
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Re: (beerbongskickass)
hmm how about the exhaust ? right ow im just runing str8 pipe , no muffler . no test pippe . & it's cut off be4 the gas tank (yes very safe) would it not have enoff back pressure be 1 of the problems ??
hopefuly i can have the ppe redone 2night .
hopefuly i can have the ppe redone 2night .
05-11-2006, 10:32 AM
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I have to ask, are you still using the resistor box? Are the injectors saturated or peek and hold? Turbo cars don't need backpressure, in fact you really don't want any.
If the car won't run right, its probably loading up. The same tune doen't always work even if everything is the same. Need to at least check the tune out for peice of mind.
If the car won't run right, its probably loading up. The same tune doen't always work even if everything is the same. Need to at least check the tune out for peice of mind.
05-11-2006, 05:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 88crxvtec »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Turbo cars don't need backpressure, in fact you really don't want any.
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Backpressure is NEVER needed, ever.. People often blame their 'lost of torque' when they slap 3" exhaust on their stock b16 due to no backpressure. What really caused the problem was the exhaust velocity.
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Backpressure is NEVER needed, ever.. People often blame their 'lost of torque' when they slap 3" exhaust on their stock b16 due to no backpressure. What really caused the problem was the exhaust velocity.
05-11-2006, 06:37 PM
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Re: (HamiltonRex)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HamiltonRex »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Backpressure is NEVER needed, ever.. People often blame their 'lost of torque' when they slap 3" exhaust on their stock b16 due to no backpressure. What really caused the problem was the exhaust velocity.</TD></TR></TABLE>
thats BS . . i've had noticeable differences on a few of my cars .
thats BS . . i've had noticeable differences on a few of my cars .