<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbogixxer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You need either need more fuel, less nitrous, less timing, and/or colder plugs.</TD></TR></TABLE>
good call on the plugs
iridiums!!!!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lowcivex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
good call on the plugs
iridiums!!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Exactly, and absolutely NO platinum plugs.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lowcivex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">nx kit
seen better results with nx and nice set-up as well</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats what i am saying NX wet kit

ZEX rates there hp by the crank and nos and nx rates them by the wheels

and i am sqeezing a 75 hp and only pulled 1 deg or timming of the stock base timming and 7's for plugs and it runs like a champ with no problem and i have a 255lph intank pump


Modified by bottlefedb18c1 at 12:23 AM 6/26/2003

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bottlefedb18c1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
ZEX rates there hp by the crank and nos and nx rates them by the wheels</TD></TR></TABLE>

Who cares what system of measurement they use? If your not satisfied, run a bigger shot!

 

well if you say you have a nos or a NX with a 75hp shot and someone was like wow let me do that with me zex and they will have to run over a 100 almost a 125 to be the same whp as the other kits

think about it i think zex only goes up to 75 hp i think

 

yeah it does but you can get up to 150 jet i think, i prolly gonna run a 75 shot, to put it at about a 50 whp shot casue that is all i need!

should i get the zex plugs or another brand?

 

150 dry shot is not good i did alot of reserch for that and i came to the conclution i if i go higher then 75 or 100 hp i am going direct port

 

Actually Zex themselves sell jettings for up to 125 shot. Read my sig. In fact the V8 kits come with jettings that big. All you really need are a strong bottom end and bigger injectors (like the V8's) and 125 shot dry will be perfectly fine.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bottlefedb18c1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well if you say you have a nos or a NX with a 75hp shot and someone was like wow let me do that with me zex and they will have to run over a 100 almost a 125 to be the same whp as the other kits

think about it i think zex only goes up to 75 hp i think</TD></TR></TABLE>

Bullcrap, a Zex 75 shot yielded 74whp when tuned with a V-AFC. Untuned yielded 68whp. 100 shot will yield over 90whp and 125 shot should yield around 115-118 whp. So NO a NX 75whp would not be like a 100 or almost 125 shot Zex.

And Zex sells jettings up to a 125 shot, think about it.

 

but a 125 dry shot

that is alot of fuel going threw them injectors

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bottlefedb18c1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">but a 125 dry shot

that is alot of fuel going threw them injectors</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's why 450cc injectors. The nitrous won't even need to rely on raised fuel pressure anymore. How do you think big turbos get their fuel? Mustangs and Camaros run 200-250 shots dry all day. If you ask me you have to worry about more **** with a wet kit, like a fuel solenoid that can fail.

Hondata's new nitrous control is geared towards a dry kit. You can increase fuel through the injectors only when the system is activated, and go back to normal fuel curves off the nitrous.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bottlefedb18c1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">but a 125 dry shot

that is alot of fuel going threw them injectors</TD></TR></TABLE>

My friend is running a 300 shot dry (which I hooked up for him). He runs a 3 stage nitrous system. Can you do a 125 shot dry? Yes, as long as you have a enough fuel and bottom end for it.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbogixxer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

My friend is running a 300 shot dry (which I hooked up for him). He runs a 3 stage nitrous system. Can you do a 125 shot dry? Yes, as long as you have a enough fuel and bottom end for it. </TD></TR></TABLE>

is that on a 4cyl??

and i take it that it is a single nozzol for each stage right

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bottlefedb18c1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

is that on a 4cyl??</TD></TR></TABLE>

What's the difference? If a stock V8 can run a 250 shot dry, what makes you think a 4 cylinder can't run a 125 shot dry with a built bottom end and bigger injectors? It's half the amount of cylinders, but it's also half the amount of nitrous. I am tempted to go towards V8 because to many Honda guys have bullshit floating around they've heard, but isn't true. Like Eagle rods break, LS trannies are better for turbo, dry kits can't spray over a 75 shot, all bullshit.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bottlefedb18c1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is that on a 4cyl??</TD></TR></TABLE>

No, it was on a 712ci Big Block chevy

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bottlefedb18c1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and i take it that it is a single nozzol for each stage right </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, it is a fogger kit. it has 3 nozzles on each intake runner

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RyanCivic2000 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dry kits can't spray over a 75 shot, all bullshit.</TD></TR></TABLE>

It comes from people that A) that do bad install or B) spray a motor that is shity condition.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbogixxer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

It comes from people that A) that do bad install or B) spray a motor that is shity condition.</TD></TR></TABLE>


or C) that don't know how to tune or add the proper fuel enrichment.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RyanCivic2000 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
or C) that don't know how to tune or add the proper fuel enrichment.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, very true

 

I really like the Hondata Nitrous controls, been great to me, I spray a 90 shot everytime at the track. Tune it into your setup w/ a wideband and it's hard to go wrong.
Really like the Zex kit though, neat feature how it monitors bottle pressure!

 

the thing is all i seen was bad workmanship with zex

my freind just picked up a used zex kit and i know the previes owner and there wasnt even 2 bottles throw it and the bottle was leaking under the fitting

he called where the kit came from and called zex and they said nope you need a seal just tightning it up will not fix it and we dont seel a seal so you HAVE TO buy a new bottle that is one of the reasons i dont like zex

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bottlefedb18c1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the thing is all i seen was bad workmanship with zex

my freind just picked up a used zex kit and i know the previes owner and there wasnt even 2 bottles throw it and the bottle was leaking under the fitting

he called where the kit came from and called zex and they said nope you need a seal just tightning it up will not fix it and we dont seel a seal so you HAVE TO buy a new bottle that is one of the reasons i dont like zex

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I never had any problems with mine for over a year now.

 

when you say it monitors bottle pressure you mean how it automatically adjusts the rich/lean fuel?? j/w

 

there is like a few others like i know of another hatch with the same setup as mine other then a zex kit and we where both spraying a 50 shot and i pulled the hell out of him ever time all over the place and he even said my nx kit hits 10x harder then his zex kit

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bottlefedb18c1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">there is like a few others like i know of another hatch with the same setup as mine other then a zex kit and we where both spraying a 50 shot and i pulled the hell out of him ever time all over the place and he even said my nx kit hits 10x harder then his zex kit</TD></TR></TABLE>

My D16 made 74whp gains tuned on a ZEX 75 shot. 10x harder is 1whp? Your friend doesn't know how to setup his Zex kit. Mista Bone ran a 13.08 with a ZEX kit on D16, explain that.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bottlefedb18c1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the thing is all i seen was bad workmanship with zex

my freind just picked up a used zex kit and i know the previes owner and there wasnt even 2 bottles throw it and the bottle was leaking under the fitting

he called where the kit came from and called zex and they said nope you need a seal just tightning it up will not fix it and we dont seel a seal so you HAVE TO buy a new bottle that is one of the reasons i dont like zex

somewhat true...the seals do tend to go bad but when mine did I just bought an NX rubber seal and it worked perfectly!

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quick question ryan.......i kno its a stupid question but do u powershift while shooting on the zex????? also u think a itr fuel pump will work fine in a ls with a 75 shot???? or what brand fuel pump should i buy?
i just bought a zex kit and am still deciding what i should run a 75 or 60 shot.