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Old Dec 20, 2001 | 09:43 AM
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More:
http://imglib.************/index.cgi?...wimage&id=3431
http://imglib.************/index.cgi?...wimage&id=3432
http://imglib.************/index.cgi?...wimage&id=3433
http://imglib.************/index.cgi?...wimage&id=3434

I have never welding anything before, so do not make fun of my first weld there

Dustin

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Old Dec 20, 2001 | 09:49 AM
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Nice Tig Welder =
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Old Dec 20, 2001 | 10:08 AM
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congrats dustin! very cool. man the fun i would have with that thing. i wanna get one to try a little d series go kart action

how much did you end up spending on the setup?
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Old Dec 20, 2001 | 10:12 AM
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how much was your welder? Way better than the Mig stuff I've used before. Oh, does your's use a regular ol' power outlet? or do you use an industrial one?
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Old Dec 20, 2001 | 10:18 AM
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It will run off 110v, 220v, or 460v. It autodetects.

I have it wired to a 220v 30amp circuit.

It ended up being pretty expensive:

Maxstar 200 DX: $1750
Foot Control: $200
Torch + Regulator + cables: $200
80 cu ft tank of argon: $140 ($35 to refill)
Hornell Speedglas 9000X helmet: $265
Connectors to wire it up: $40
TIG gloves: $10

Then I bought some extra stuff like a 200A torch, a bunch of lanthanated tungsten, a bunch of gas lenses and collets/collet bodies to accompany them.. a bunch of mild/stainless/alum filler rod.. all came to $300. I haven't received this stuff yet.. UPS says it will be here the 24th.

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Old Dec 20, 2001 | 10:33 AM
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damn that's expensive...do you think it's worth it over a $300 MIG machine? The welding in your picture looks like it is, but did you need all that stuff? Can you just get away with the welder itself?

Is that the cheapest TIG machine they have? What kind of Wire does it use?


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Old Dec 20, 2001 | 10:45 AM
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TIG does not use wire.. just filler rod that you add manually.

Honestly, if you want a decent tig machine get the Maxstar 140. It comes with EVERYTHING for about $1000... It also weighs about 10lbs and can run off 110 or 220.

I almost bought it but I wanted to do some heavy fabrication on really thick steel so I needed 200 amps.
http://www.brwelder.com has them on sale.

You do not want a cheap MIG machine. They can only weld 1/8" steel AT MOST and have very low duty cycles (like 10% on 1/8" steel). Also, mig is pretty lame. You can weld with no filler metal with TIG in many scenarios. MIG always adds material because the electrode is consumable.

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Old Dec 20, 2001 | 10:45 AM
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damn that's expensive...do you think it's worth it over a $300 MIG machine? The welding in your picture looks like it is
haha... i thought he said not to bitch about the weld...

damnit! i want one!
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Old Dec 20, 2001 | 11:09 AM
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I really need one of those.
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Old Dec 20, 2001 | 11:17 AM
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That your Christmas gift to yourself?
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Old Dec 20, 2001 | 11:19 AM
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Yes, and next year's christmas present too hehe..
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Old Dec 20, 2001 | 11:33 AM
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no Imeant that the welding in his picture looks like it's way better quality than an expert using a MIG (wire feed) welder...

WIll the Maxstar 140 be adequite for trying to weld manifolds and stuff?

can taht thing weld aluminum? aluminum sheet metal and welding sticks included


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Old Dec 20, 2001 | 11:36 AM
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The Maxstar 140 will do 1/4" steel very nicely and you can do 3/8" steel if you go slow and maybe do a 2 pass weld. It can also do 1/8" aluminum if you do DCEP. (reverse polarity)

Read this, a very good writeup on the 140:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=er...mindspring.com

The new model is even better and comes with a torch mounted amperage control (instead of a foot pedal).

here is a link: http://www.cyberweld.com/milmax140tig.html

It is $965 there but it does not come with the torch amp control. The one with the amperage control (recommended) is a little more. http://www.brwelder.com has the one with the torch control on sale on their specials page.

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Old Dec 20, 2001 | 11:44 AM
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hehe... well you know you're first weld came out a lot better than mine. Mine cost me my original oil pan.... DOH!
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Old Dec 20, 2001 | 12:32 PM
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Dustin are u really good at welding
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Old Dec 20, 2001 | 12:34 PM
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I might be eventually
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Old Dec 20, 2001 | 01:47 PM
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So when is the Dustin turbo kit coming out?
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Old Dec 20, 2001 | 03:11 PM
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hahaa, my first welding was with a MIG wire feed welder...it looked like cottage cheese holding the piping together...
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Old Dec 20, 2001 | 07:37 PM
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that looks like a desktop computer at first glance
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Old Dec 20, 2001 | 08:14 PM
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Cool, thanks dustin. I am gonna start on this intercooler piping of mine now...

Good to have you as a friend...hehe


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Old Dec 20, 2001 | 08:46 PM
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So when are you going to start making us stuff?
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Old Dec 20, 2001 | 08:48 PM
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Well, I am definately good at destroying metal. Now I just need to get the hang of doing something constructive with it.

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Old Dec 21, 2001 | 01:06 AM
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hell yeah, you don't live too far away from me either!
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Old Dec 21, 2001 | 05:55 AM
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You gonna post some pics of your "construction"?
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Old Dec 21, 2001 | 07:37 AM
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TIG does not use wire.. just filler rod that you add manually.

Honestly, if you want a decent tig machine get the Maxstar 140. It comes with EVERYTHING for about $1000... It also weighs about 10lbs and can run off 110 or 220.

I almost bought it but I wanted to do some heavy fabrication on really thick steel so I needed 200 amps.
http://www.brwelder.com has them on sale.

You do not want a cheap MIG machine. They can only weld 1/8" steel AT MOST and have very low duty cycles (like 10% on 1/8" steel). Also, mig is pretty lame. You can weld with no filler metal with TIG in many scenarios. MIG always adds material because the electrode is consumable.

Dustin
I would also suggest the Hobart Tigmate. I'm considering buying this unit. It retails for around 1200 bucks. Comes with everything you need (except for gas tank).
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