tegdude227

i have a 97 gsr and im in the middle of ordering all my parts for my build. i wanna
SC in the future but fir right now i just want a fresh built motor.

Parts that i have are eagle rods and all the gaskets

Parts i need input on
srp pistons 11:1 compression
arp head studs
brian crower springs and retainers
supertech valves (the high compressions ones)
supertechs valve guides
aem cam gears

just need some input on wat you guys think of this setup. its my DD and for right now im going to be using an AFC and a wideband. once again any input is helpful
thanx alot

PrecisionH23a

Throw that AFC in the garbage and run a real EMS if you plan on having a s/c.

tegdude227

i know when i get the SC im going to run hondata with boost this is just for the time beeing. and i need inpit on the setup right now, not the SC

tegdude227

anyone i need to know if this is any good so i can start ordering parts ? thanx

iBrandon

Why not convert over to the darkside....(Hears turbo whispering in your ear)...i think you would be alot more satisfied with turbo if done correctly!

tegdude227

i just want a nice SC car lol my buddy is turboin his car so illl just ride in the lol. but for the setup wat do you think

zexxbo

cr is kinda high. what kind of power are you trying to make? and why would you go supertech valves and guides but then crower springs and retainers? either get supertech springs and retainers or skunk2 or ferrea and just get the standard compression ones. i like the aebs headstuds better, but thats just me.

tegdude227

im looking for 250 with the SC. so just stick with all supertech stuff then ? and will stock siz valves be fine ?

o yea and wat about omni powers valve train ?

zexxbo

ive seen people make like 230ish+ on 7lbs with a supercharger before and that was on a jdm gsr motor. so your goal is definitely attainable and you prolly wont need such a high compression ratio to get there. for pistons, i would go with cp, arias or wiseco probably tho. not that srps are bad, its all just personal preference.
i would stick with all supertech stuff if thats the route youre trying to go. but ferrea and skunk2 make really good products so i wouldnt hesitate on those if you have the money. omni power makes really good products as well and im sure their valvetrain is just as good as their suspension. imho, omni power makes some of the best suspension setups- im debating whether i wanna go omni or buddyclub cuz im currently on tokico illuminas with skunk2 coilovers but havent put my new motor in yet.
stock size valves are fine, not sure how much it would benefit you to go oversize. but your machinist might charge you extra to accomodate the larger size valves. i went with skunk2 full valvetrain and 0.5mm oversize valves

tegdude227

how do you like your skunk2s ?

tegdude227

and yet another question when i was looking at supertech valves they have there flat face ones which they say raises comp and there dish ones which ones sould i get ?
and they also have titanium retainers or aluminum which one of these ?
and im also going to be running my stock cams or sould i get after market ones? ive heard that i can make good numbers with me stock ones ?

93supercoupe

Superchargers are beat and VAFC's cost as much as some EMS's

zexxbo

i havent put my motor together yet, i just decided to go with skunk2 because i know they make a good product (even if some of their products arent actually made by them) and its been tested.
flat or dish is up to you. im not sure how much the flat raise your compression, but either will be good. i would go with the titanium retainers tho..
stock cams are fine, youll make your power goal for sure and you can always add whatever later ya know?

tegdude227

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dont post info usless its useful to me i know wat i want .

but after im done building my motor sould i be able to run it off the stock ecu witht the AFC and a wideband for now ? and since im not really chaning anything im just puttin better parts in i sould be fine right ?

tegdude227

BUMP

Schister66

for the same price as your engine build and supercharger setup, you could have a ridiculous turbo setup on the STOCK engine that would make more power than what you're shooting for....

tegdude227

i understand this but any one can turbo a honda and make it fast . i just want i DD SC teg . and my motor needs to be rebilt anyways thats y im building it. i just need info on SC and my setup !

Schister66

Your SC setup looks rather stout...i would look into some kind of aftercooler so that you can eventually raise the boost and have a little more fun...

what size exhaust are you planning to run??

tegdude227

im am planin on running the LHT intercooler. and i have 2.5 inch exhaust with a race header . noise dosent really bother me

tegdude227

but ecu wise do you think that i will be fine running a stock ecu on a freshly rebuilt motor ? im not really changing much

Schister66

you're going to need to tune it after the rebuild so you're not going to be able to use the stock ECU...you're going to have to get a chipped P28 (or equivalent) and run some kind of tuning software...like Crome, Uberdata, Neptune, Hondata and so forth...

tegdude227

im going to be running hondata when i SC . but just a question y cant i run the stock ecu with just a rebuilt motor and no SC ? just wana know cuz to me im just putting a fresh motor in and normally i wouldnt need to chip the ecu for that .